Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5323209)

merciful end for all of us.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5323124)

I think you'll get another season just like this one if Herm is brought back. That's why I don't want him brought back. He's a bad gameday coach.

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5323204)

OK. I can understand that perfectly. But I still don't get the people who are afraid of Herm coming back and winning so many games that he might be kept around.

And I've always believed that "gameday coaching" from the head coach is overrated. It's a professional team. The head coach is there on gameday for motivation and guidance. That's why he's on the sideline and not upstairs watching the plays develop. The coordinators do that. They call the plays, and they have the ability to change the scheme when necessary. That doesn't resolve Herm of some of the gameday mistakes he's made, but I question whether a different coach in the same situation would have made any huge difference. When it comes down to it, the coach can say whatever he wants. But the players have to execute on the field. And no amount of coaching can force the players to execute. Without execution on the field, coaching in itself is helpless. And with a team this young, you're not going to have all the players executing well at the same time. It's part of being inexperienced.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5323216)

what mistake did he make this weekend, on the sideline - gameday.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5323216)

what mistake did he make this weekend, on the sideline - gameday.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5323226)

I don't know, I'm not basing my comments off of one game.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5323210)

Suffice to say players aren't too bright sometimes.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5323235)

ok then, the last three games, or are you only going to base your opinion off of a couple games last year, when he F'ed the clock mangement.

Truth - he's not making the same "gameday" mistakes but he's still getting the blame for them, right?

+and again, I'm really only throwing off the lynch mob this site has turned into. If he goes, I won't be sad. I have said that I'm tired of all the start overs, three years running.

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5323112)

This mindset is quite fascinating to me. Many people have said they don't want Herm here next season, because they're afraid he'll win too many games and end up with an extension.

OK?

You think we could have a big turnaround, get over .500, and have a good young team (built by Herm). But you don't want the guy that made that happen? You're afraid we'd eventually lose in the playoffs? We've only been to the playoffs twice in the last decade, but another playoff appearance wouldn't be good enough for you? For shit's sake.... I think the only way some people will be happy is if a new coach came in and took us to the Superbowl the first year with every draft pick in the pro bowl.... No time for progress, we can't be losing a playoff game... that'd be terrible...

I just can't understand how you can wish for a coach to get fired because you're afraid he'll win too many games next year and deserve a contract extension... That's just putting dislike for the guy ahead of the team's progress....

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5323210)

This story is interesting. Apparently 95% of the Rams players want Haslett back next year as head coach.

Suffice to say players aren't too bright sometimes.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5323248)

He has made some questionable decisions this year. Off the top of my head he had a couple of relatively short 4th downs and didn't go for them thus putting it in the defenses hand to win the game when they couldn't stop anybody all day long.

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5323235)

ok then, the last three games, or are you only going to base your opinion off of a couple games last year, when he F'ed the clock mangement.

Truth - he's not making the same "gameday" mistakes but he's still getting the blame for them, right?

+and again, I'm really only throwing off the lynch mob this site has turned into. If he goes, I won't be sad. I have said that I'm tired of all the start overs, three years running.

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5323268)

What about those of us who just think his philosophy is outdated and don't like him because of it?

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5323267)

You miss my my point. Last year there were bigger questions, this year there are fewer, and no Herm hater want's to admit that. So the "horrible gameday coach" excuse carries little water.

He HAS had some bad days on that sideline, no question. And by the very nature of humanity - he's going to make other mistakes, everyone does. But when you can see improvements, then you don't keep bringing up the old mistakes. No relationship with work, spouse, family will ever be successful with that mentality.

-again, Herm stays or herm goes <>= to me, overall. Just pointing out other sides of the coin. If a new GM keeps him I'm ok with that, in fact more likely interested in the continuation of what started this year, but understand it if a new GM takes him out.