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DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5505766)
Ray lewis hasnt had 4 sacks since '97.
Ray Lewis is a MIDDLE linebacker, not an OLB.

melbar 02-18-2009 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5505785)
Who said Curry was the perfect prospect...

Its just a mindset in the fanbase... Some want defense and 9-7, others want a QB and a chance to win a superbowl...
Seriously? Superbowl?

How many 32nd ranked defenses have gone to the Superbowl? Lets be a little dramatic saying that Sanchez is the only way to the Bowl. wow.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5505789)
Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.
Curry played in the ACC.

'Nuff said.

CrazyHorse 02-18-2009 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505776)
Just forget Crazy man he just wants to take whoever the supposed best defensive player is period. Inspite if this you know being a shitty year for defense at the top of the draft but that doesn't count.

We don't need a QB we got Tyler Thigpen!
It's not necessary to put words in my mouth. I have communicated exactly how I feel. I said I would be satisfied either way.

Mecca 02-18-2009 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5505808)
Ray Lewis is a MIDDLE linebacker, not an OLB.
I know reading comprehension is hard for some people.....

I don't get this LB thing, look a teams like the Colts and Eagles they've made a living drafting LB's in the mid to late rounds playing them for a few years and walking away everytime one wants to get paid.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5505811)
Seriously? Superbowl?

How many 32nd ranked defenses have gone to the Superbowl? Lets be a little dramatic saying that Sanchez is the only way to the Bowl. wow.
If you want to improve your defense, next year is the year to improve the defense.

There is not ONE game-changing defensive lineman or linebacker (that we know of) in this draft.

Not ONE.

Why waste that valuable pick on just a guy?

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2009 10:20 PM
We could just wait a year to fix the defense when I can think of about 30 stud defensive players off the top of my head in next year's draft.

Mecca 02-18-2009 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5505811)
Seriously? Superbowl?

How many 32nd ranked defenses have gone to the Superbowl? Lets be a little dramatic saying that Sanchez is the only way to the Bowl. wow.
How many great defense are built around a strong side linebacker that doesn't rush the passer?

Really ask yourself that question because if you make that pick you are expecting Aaron Curry to do something that isn't common.

lazepoo 02-18-2009 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5505785)
Who said Curry was the perfect prospect...

Its just a mindset in the fanbase... Some want defense and 9-7, others want a QB and a chance to win a superbowl...
I'm not sure how you think it's as cut and dried as that... you can't win without a solid team on both sides of the ball, and you don't have to look any further than our own teams in the last 20 years (Marty's D in the 90s or Vermiel's Offense). Obviously a franchise QB is an important piece of the puzzle, but this single-minded QB Kool-Aid that has you thinking the Chiefs will be SB bound once they draft one is as bad as the "True Fan" nonsense.

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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5505789)
Who?

Again who do you pick if both QB's are gone? I know you've said CB. OK. How does that have more value to this team?

Curry had 15 tackles behind the line. 3 TD's from int's. over 100 tackles. He's a solid tackler and a big hitter. He is stout against the run. So they didnt rush the passer with him. We cant get everything with one pick or even one draft. Lewis doesnt rush the passer either and he does pretty OK.
Is there anyone else in the draft with Curry's skill set? I've heard talk that this year's draft is full of rush backers, so if we're in a 3-4 and Curry is the only guy around that can do what he does, is his value increased as a result?

Deberg_1990 02-18-2009 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505803)
It has to do with the QB, some people act as if the QB isn't perfect they don't want him and want something else instead.

If Chiefsplanet had been around, this board would have found fault with Elway, Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman when they were drafted.



Alot of this fanbase just like to criticize franchise QB's because we have never drafted one.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5505820)
We could just wait a year to fix the defense when I can think of about 30 stud defensive players off the top of my head in next year's draft.
But to get to 8-8 this year, we need to draft defense NOW!

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5505811)
Seriously? Superbowl?

How many 32nd ranked defenses have gone to the Superbowl? Lets be a little dramatic saying that Sanchez is the only way to the Bowl. wow.
Lets be even more dramatic and say that we have to only draft defense because our 24th ranked offense can carry a team to the superbowl...

Seriously? 9-7?

Mecca 02-18-2009 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lazepoo (Post 5505825)
I'm not sure how you think it's as cut and dried as that... you can't win without a solid team on both sides of the ball, and you don't have to look any further than our own teams in the last 20 years (Marty's D in the 90s or Vermiel's Offense). Obviously a franchise QB is an important piece of the puzzle, but this single-minded QB Kool-Aid that has you thinking the Chiefs will be SB bound once they draft one is as bad as the "True Fan" nonsense.



Is there anyone else in the draft with Curry's skill set? I've heard talk that this year's draft is full of rush backers, so if we're in a 3-4 and Curry is the only guy around that can do what he does, is his value increased as a result?
Linebackers are the RB's of defense they're a dime a dozen unless they have pass rush ability, think of it that way.

keg in kc 02-18-2009 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505822)
Really ask yourself that question because if you make that pick you are expecting Aaron Curry to do something that isn't common.
****ing doubter, he's Aaron fucking Curry, the new Mike Peterson.

Hell, he could give Mike Peterson Mike Peterson lessons. And then when he was done, he'd teach him how to be Aaron fucking Curry.

melbar 02-18-2009 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505797)
The CB position is more valuable than the LB position....
We have 2 solid young CB's and 1 average LB. Especially if we go 3-4 we have to have solid LB play. I dont recall dominant CB play running the Steelers D. It was great LB play. But I dont think CB isnt valuable. I think we need solid if not spectacular players all over the field.


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