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milkman 02-22-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517344)
I don't really think it's possible for him to surpass Stafford, Stafford is the one with the jawdropping natural ability, all of Sanchez big plusses over Stafford are things that aren't shown in workouts.

That's probably true, but Sanchez is showing his competitive nature by competing to at least make that attempt.

I guess that's just another sign of immaturity.

Mecca 02-22-2009 10:59 PM

What exactly were you looking for I was watching his mechanics and feet...his arm strength didn't show through and the bad timing I was fully expecting since he wasn't familiar with any of the receivers.

I think the only thing he really needs to do is consistently show his arm strength more.

Mecca 02-22-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5517361)
That's probably true, but Sanchez is showing his competitive nature by competing to at least make that attempt.

I guess that's just another sign of immaturity.

Depends who's evaluating him, some people think his confidence is cockiness.

doomy3 02-22-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517366)
What exactly were you looking for I was watching his mechanics and feet...his arm strength didn't show through and the bad timing I was fully expecting since he wasn't familiar with any of the receivers.

I think the only thing he really needs to do is consistently show his arm strength more.

His arm strength was my biggest concern going into today as I have repeatedly said. He actually showed WORSE arm strength today than what I was expecting, and I didn't expect much in that category. If it isn't significantly better in his pro day, that is a huge concern.

TRR 02-22-2009 11:02 PM

I watched all of Sanchez' throws today and thought he did a great job with his footwork, and keeping the ball high. Gruden seems to really like Sanchez, and what he brings to the table.

In the end, I think that with Crabtree measuring at 6'1, and surgery looming on his foot, he is almost undraftable at the #3 spot. If he waits until after his Pro Day to have the surgery, he may not be ready for Mini Camp. That being said, I think KC would be crazy to pass on a competitor like Sanchez. He has good intangibles, toughness, will only get better with more experience.

I came away liking Sanchez more today after his workout than before. I would be upset to see KC draft another LB like Curry or reach for another player when a QB like Sanchez is waiting and ready to impact a team.
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milkman 02-22-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517367)
Depends who's evaluating him, some people think his confidence is cockiness.

FTR, the immaturity shot was sarcasm aimed at SensibleChief.

doomy3 02-22-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5517361)
That's probably true, but Sanchez is showing his competitive nature by competing to at least make that attempt.

I guess that's just another sign of immaturity.

I definitely like that he is competing and respect him for that. I just wish he would have competed better. When your arm strength looks inferior to guys like Pat White, then maybe you should have saved it.

doomy3 02-22-2009 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517367)
Depends who's evaluating him, some people think his confidence is cockiness.

I want a cocky QB. But I want a cocky QB that can back it up.

Thigpen has also been overconfident this offseason. That doesn't equate to success though.

Mecca 02-22-2009 11:07 PM

I still didn't think his arm strength came off as poorly as same are making it out to be, it wasn't like he was Chad Pennington out there, his arm looked league average to me in todays workout.

I'd say he has an above average arm and needs to show that, he's probably already been told that 100 times by people coaching him.

doomy3 02-22-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517406)
I still didn't think his arm strength came off as poorly as same are making it out to be, it wasn't like he was Chad Pennington out there, his arm looked league average to me in todays workout.

I'd say he has an above average arm and needs to show that, he's probably already been told that 100 times by people coaching him.

He underthrew deep balls worse than ANYONE else in the drills today. Also the post corner, other than the one he threw out of bounds. And he was competing with mostly guys who won't be playing QB in the NFL.

BleedRed 02-22-2009 11:17 PM

When I watched Sanchez throw today I watched his feet and his release first. His five and seven step drops looks fluid to me. He had good spacing between his steps and didn't seem to stutter or take a few long or short steps. And he held the ball at a good height, right under his chin. Compared to some other guys that threw the ball, like that kid from 'Bama Gruden was jerking off, Sanchez looked poised in his drop back. As absurd as that sounds.

As for his arm strength, I thought he threw the ball well on the out routes and the post corner. The first deep throw he made had a lot of air under it, but I honestly think that had more to do with him floating it up there for the receiver to run under than anything else. And I say that because more than half of the receivers running routes rounded off on the second cone and its hard for a QB that has no timing with said WR to know where he is going to make his break and then place the ball accordingly.

BleedRed 02-22-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5517416)
He underthrew deep balls worse than ANYONE else in the drills today. Also the post corner, other than the one he threw out of bounds. And he was competing with mostly guys who won't be playing QB in the NFL.

Personally, I think you are a bit stuck on the deep balls he threw. I wouldn't get so caught up in that. There are a lot of good NFL QB's that throw soft deep balls.

Arm strength really is more important on the 15+ yard deep out routes and digs. And I think he showed he is capable of making those throws.

Besides, if he was that horribly inaccurate and weak armed, would he really have been as good as he was at USC this year? The guys on NFL T.V. said it best, the tape doesn't lie. You simply cannot judge anyone by a few throws at a combine with players he's never worked with. I mean, why is it said year after year in preseason how important it is for a QB and WR to establish timing?

KCwolf 02-22-2009 11:22 PM

I PRAY to CHRIST the Kansas City Chiefs DO NOT draft a QB with the #3 PICK in the draft.....THERE is NO QB in the Draft that warrants the #3 PICK period! I'm not at all sold on Stafford either......YES it is a HUGE need ..... but NO NO NO.....there is no QB worth that pick in the 09' DRAFT! Please don't let this happen.....Please.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5517416)
He underthrew deep balls worse than ANYONE else in the drills today. Also the post corner, other than the one he threw out of bounds. And he was competing with mostly guys who won't be playing QB in the NFL.

Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.

doomy3 02-22-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5517480)
Oh bull ****ing shit.

The two fly routes he threw were perfectly accurate, the WR had to take the slightest of hesitations to get there. Not one QB hit their guy in stride on the 9, and Pat White was the only one without a semblance of an underthrow.

No, they weren't. Not even close. They were most definitely behind the receivers.


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