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BigChiefFan 03-02-2009 10:25 AM

My goodness, we aren't one friggin inside LBer away. I've been saying it for months, but Raji is the pick.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5546543)
Lauranitis could play in a 3-4 too. He's not nearly the player Curry is, but for value, trading back and taking one of those guys makes alot more sense.

I think he's way to finesse to be a 3-4 guy, JL to me is a cover 2 style player.

DeezNutz 03-02-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546544)
He thinks all the Chiefs players are really talented apparently...it's pretty funny.

If you put Ron Edwards at nose in a 3-4 he is going to get killed and your ILBs are going to get flat backed.

I honestly have to think about what would constitute a worse front 3 than Boone, Edwards, and McBride.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 5546546)
That would be a reason to take Curry. Plus, if he is that kind of player then he could handle playing ILB or OLB.

Tell me what 3-4 OLB played OLB in college....they're DE/LB tweeners that would have been ends in 4-3s.

Aaron Curry is not that.

SenselessChiefsFan 03-02-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5546539)
So the same crop of dog shit is going to be miraculously transformed in the 3-4? Are you kidding?

These guys are not without talent.

Seriously, it takes putting these guys in the right positions to win.

The Chiefs had a glut of DT's last year. Boone, Edwards, Dorsey, and Tank are all viable starters on most teams. Turk McBride fits a 3-4 DE best or a 4-3 under tackle.

Boone and McBride are natural fits at DE in the 3-4.

And, Dorsey is a better option than guys who merely look at the measurables will ever understand.

Chief Faithful 03-02-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546531)
And here we go again when a guy finishes his 4 year college career with 9 sacks he's not a pass rusher.

Anyone who says without a doubt he can rush the passer is at best being dishonest.

All right answer me this, how does a LB get a sack while dropping back in coverage? Did you miss how he is known as a coverage LB? The guy was not asked to rush the QB in college.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:29 AM

Ron Edwards a viable starter on most teams lol...

If these guys were nearly as good as you are saying they are this defense would not be this bad.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 5546556)
All right answer me this, how does a LB get a sack while dropping back in coverage? Did you miss how he is known as a coverage LB? The guy was not asked to rush the QB in college.

Which means he doesn't rush the passer right? Rushing the passer is something you can't just teach someone to do, if it was a premier pass rusher wouldn't be valued like he's gold...think about that.

BigChiefFan 03-02-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5546554)
These guys are not without talent.

Seriously, it takes putting these guys in the right positions to win.

The Chiefs had a glut of DT's last year. Boone, Edwards, Dorsey, and Tank are all viable starters on most teams. Turk McBride fits a 3-4 DE best or a 4-3 under tackle.

Boone and McBride are natural fits at DE in the 3-4.

And, Dorsey is a better option than guys who merely look at the measurables will ever understand.

Yea, so much talent that we got carved up on the ground every week.

eazyb81 03-02-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 5546556)
All right answer me this, how does a LB get a sack while dropping back in coverage? Did you miss how he is known as
a coverage LB? The guy was not asked to rush the QB in college.

Until someone gives an example of a player that played LB in college and successfully made the transition to 3-4 OLB, the point is moot.

SenselessChiefsFan 03-02-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546537)
Your concept of how to build a defense is so completely different than mine, you are expecting guys to just do things they aren't suited to do, that'll be fun.


No.... your concept of what guys are suited to do is the problem.

But, what do I expect, you told everyone that Sanchez was going to be great at the combine throwing because physical tools were never the issue.

htismaqe 03-02-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546549)
I think he's way to finesse to be a 3-4 guy, JL to me is a cover 2 style player.

He's got the range you look for in a 3-4 ILB. What he doesn't have is the killer instinct, at least not this past season.

DeezNutz 03-02-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5546554)
These guys are not without talent.

Seriously, it takes putting these guys in the right positions to win.

The Chiefs had a glut of DT's last year. Boone, Edwards, Dorsey, and Tank are all viable starters on most teams. Turk McBride fits a 3-4 DE best or a 4-3 under tackle.

Boone and McBride are natural fits at DE in the 3-4.

And, Dorsey is a better option than guys who merely look at the measurables will ever understand.

Dorsey aside, the rest of that list is made up of rotational players at best. Those guys wouldn't and won't anchor a top 10 unit.

There is a supreme lack of overall talent on this roster. 10 sacks, 2 wins, multiple 300 yard rushing games of the opposition. However you want to measure, it's not good.

SenselessChiefsFan 03-02-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5546567)
Until someone gives an example of a player that played LB in college and successfully made the transition to 3-4 OLB, the point is moot.

Donnie Edwards played OLB in the 3-4, just off the top of my head. He played ILB and OLB in the 3-4, as well as MLB and OLB in the 4-3.

But, for the record, I do not want Curry playing OLB in the 3-4.

ChiefsCountry 03-02-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5546488)
The problem is that we have the #3 overall pick. I've said it before, we picked the wrong year to go 2-14.

I think it was fine but the Chiefs pulled a typical Chiefs move and now the #3 pick is pretty much worthless now.


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