That offense was predicated around the run about as much as any aggressive system can be. But that's not what I'm referring to. Even when the offense was at its peak, they had a very hard time executing late in games. They couldn't line up and just pound 2 or 3 yards when they needed it.

sacks is not the only indicator of poor o line play. the ability to run the ball is important and the pats had (I think) the 6th best rushing offense in the league. the KC o line couldn't run block and they couldn't pass block for very long. I don't think it is a stretch to suggest that the pats o line is much better the Chiefs.

this really wasn't even what I was talking about.... someone suggested that the chiefs shouldn't use the spread bc it doesn't fit the talents of the team and I was pointing out that the spread helps our o line because they suck. and I can definitely see us using the spread on occasion to benefit the weak o line.

LJ was leading the NFL in rushing yards or was second in rushing yards before we switched to the spread...

B-but...but...our rushing yards were GREATER in 08 once wqe switched to the Almighty Spread! :rolleyes:

Um, if shit-storm threads are ones that should provoke thought and conversation, then YES I do try to start them.

Actually, I don't really care about being right. Predicting what will happen does not mean you 'know' football. Many guys who predict all sorts of things know football. There are a myriad of factors that go into any decision the Chiefs make.

I do care about raising the level of understanding about football on this board. I would like to have intelligent conversation about my football team with other informed fans. They do not have to think like me, but I would prefer that their opinions come from logic based thought, and now some half assed radio sports jock.

They didn't run the spread option, but they did run the spread offense.

No.

First, the Chiefs had the spread offense in the playbook before the season ever started, including the spread option. They were planning on doing a lot of zone running, bootlegs, etc. Brodie Croyle gets hurt.

Now, do you think Damon Huard could have run the spread? No.

Brodie comes back and gets hurt again.... Huard gets hurt.

Now, the other part of this is that LJ gets suspended.

The power runner for the power running game is suspended. The Offensive line is struggling to open up running lanes, or protect the QB.

So, there was much more to why the Chiefs ran the spread than just Thigpen.

Sorry, but aren't you the same guy trying to argue that the Cassel/Vrabel deal had something to do with the other two players the Chiefs brought in? You argued that it was freed up roster/cap space when in fact those moves had NO bearing on the Pats cap or roster situation.

It is THIS kind of ignorance that I will work to eliminate.

Now, we can argue about what physical tools a player has. That is a matter of opinion. Many things are matters of opinions. But, lets please at least try to get the facts right.

Not to say I am always right on my facts. I make mistakes like anyone else... but lets own our mistakes, and then work to do better.

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LJ was leading the NFL in rushing yards or was second in rushing yards before we switched to the spread...

I don't think LJ was and even if he was, where would he have been without the Denver game??? the game would over inflate the stat.

Hey, you don't have to sell me on Cassel... I liked the move a good bit.

I agree that right now, Cassel is much more equipped to go under center. I agree that right now, Cassel is more ready than Thigpen to start for this team.

I just think that he will be running the spread a lot this year, and I know he ran it a lot last year... and had his best success in it.

the pats didn't get any cap relief from the vrabel trade???? was I misinformed???

Wasn't LJ suspended when the Chiefs switched to the spread?

He was near the top before that game but hey keep trying.

Oh yeah I know we will use it, the difference is Cassel CAN line and will also line up under center helping the offense a lot more.