I already pimped your mamma' to the curb, bitch; I'm sure she'll raise the green in 10 years or so.

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They didn't, though. For Pioli, trading for Cassel is FAR more of a risk than drafting a rookie.

Pioli has put it all on the line with this move. He has to be right that Cassel will be better, or at least just as good, as Stafford and Sanchez. And someone will say we never had a shot at Stafford, but nobody knew if he was going #1 back when the Cassel trade went down. By making the trade, Pioli passed on both rookie QBs. He had to think Cassel was a better option than both of them.

If Pioli is wrong, and he couldn't get a proper read on a QB who was right there in the Pats' system for 3-4 years, he will have shattered his credibility with the Chiefs fanbase with his very first roster decision. That's a big-time roll of the dice.

The only thing that even remotely makes Cassel "safe" is that his track record (one season in a proven system with an all-galaxy WR to throw to) makes him slightly less of a risk than a rookie with no track record at all. But that's practically splititng hairs. Some people act like we traded for Bledsoe or Pennington, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Cassel is nowhere close to a guarantee on the field. Trading for him was a huge gamble by Pioli in terms of credibility and reputation. I have never understood the notion that Cassel somehow represents the safter path.

If he busts, it's game over.

I agree with 90% of what you've stated here. Well done.

The disagreement lies in the fact that you've denied the fact that Cassel isn't the "safer" choice. The only reason he is considered "safer" is that he's been in the NFL for four full seasons and he's played in 16 games (with 15 starts).

In many people's eyes (and I daresay, the overwhelming majority of Chiefsplanet members), he's safer than Stafford or Sanchez because neither have played in the NFL.

Which IMO, is a ridiculous argument. But you're right.

If Cassel busts, so does Pioli.

I don't think he'll "bust", and I've said already that he gives us a faster start out of the gate.
The question is; does he excel beyond game manager and give us a truly exceptional quarterback that you can absolutely count on to make something special happen when you desperately need it to happen?
Or are we looking at Green 2.0 as Stafford and/or Sanchez excel past that benchmark, assuming they can do so?

see the end of the jets game(and please no b.s. about the loss, he did EVERYTHING he could to win that game, they never got the ball in ot) BTW that game has been on NFLN at least 3times since the trade, and the INDY game (another loss where gaffney drops a PERFECT pass for a TD) will be on sunday if you want to watch cassel(not his best game but like i said gaffney drops a PERFECT td pass that would have made the game a W

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I get that, and I'll try to watch these games before camp.

What I'm saying here, is that Cassel's experience which made him a better choice than an unproven rookie on draft day, becomes his deficit once those rookies begin their careers assuming they don't bust.
If Sanchez and Stafford are not busts, and we know that Sanchez is going to start from day 1 this year while Detroit eases Stafford in to his role, do you really look forward to facing either of those guys when they hit 27 years old with all that NFL playing time under belt?

There's a definite trade-off here, that's all I'm saying. Of course at that time, we'll hopefully have traded Thigpen off to someone who's in desperate need of a starter and will have drafted an understudy of our own, and one that we will all love, respect, and agree on! :rolleyes::D

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Sanchez doesn't scare me one bit. I think he will be a good, game manager type of QB. Nothing to be scared of though.

Stafford, however, may be the best QB in the league at that point. He also could be out of the league in 4 years. He is the ultimate boom or bust prospect, IMO.

But the fact remains that we didn't have a chance to draft him anyway, so it really doesn't matter. This thread is like Mecca constantly whining because the Chiefs didn't draft Antonio Cromartie when he wanted him to. Doesn't matter that Cromartie was picked before the Chiefs had a choice, it's much easier to just be pissed about it and say "I told you so."

PRAISE HIS NAME!

In retrospect, we never had an ice cube's chance in hell of drafting either of them once Pioli signed his contract and unpacked his bags.
If we were sitting at 2 instead of 3, maybe.
But even then I doubt it.

Many people on here knew this, at least for the last month or so. But, those people were called reeruned on here because Cassel hadn't signed a long term contract by people who actually expected the Chiefs to draft Sanchez. There was absolutely no chance of that, and for some reason no one wanted to understand this. Instead, people like you said "Just wait until draft day when we draft a REAL QB," and acted like you knew something.

Now you have "retrospect."

You quoted the important part of the post, yet you didn't seem to get it. Once again; in retrospect, we had no chance in hell of signing either of them once Pioli became GM, because his mind was already made up long before the combine, and BEFORE the Cassel trade*

*That's the important part.