Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5767174)

With the exception of Tom Brady & Brad Johnson, high first round QB's (if not #1 overall) have won the Super Bowl this decade.

Regardless of what you think, the NFL has become such a level playing field that for the most part (exception being the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs), stellar play at the QB position is what separates good teams from Super Bowl teams.

If you don't have a high first round draft pick, your chance of winning the Super Bowl in today's NFL is greatly diminished.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5767170)

Where I do agree is that we need to place a heavier weight on the Cassel vs. Sanchez battle. For example, if Sanchez is much better than Cassel, but Tyson Jackson becomes a pro bowler, the Chiefs still lose. However, I believe that if Sanchez is only slightly better than Cassel, but Jackson becomes a very good pro, then the Chiefs still win out.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5767170)

I don't agree for a few reasons:
-If Sanchez isn't a top 10 QB in 4-5 years, then the Chiefs made a great trade regardless of whether Cassel succeeds, assuming Jackson ends up being a solid Defensive Lineman (which I think he's a pretty low-risk player).
-I think this is a clear case of a different bar being set for a first round pick versus a late-round pick. You're basically suggesting that if Cassel ends up being a better QB than Sanchez, but isn't a championship QB, then it's a worthless trade? What I find interesting about that is that I think that if we drafted Sanchez and he never won us a Super Bowl but won us a few playoff games, people would hesitate to call it a wasted pick. I know it's not an apples to apples comparison, but Cassel deserves to be measured by the same standard as Sanchez.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5767180)

Of the last 10 Super Bowls, 5 were won by quarterbacks not drafted in the first round.

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5767180)

Of the last 10 Super Bowls, 5 were won by quarterbacks not drafted in the first round.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5767174)

With the exception of Tom Brady & Brad Johnson, high first round QB's (if not #1 overall) have won the Super Bowl this decade.

Regardless of what you think, the NFL has become such a level playing field that for the most part (exception being the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs), stellar play at the QB position is what separates good teams from Super Bowl teams.

If you don't have a high first round draft pick, your chance of winning the Super Bowl in today's NFL is greatly diminished.

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5767182)

With all due respect, that is the most convoluted football theorem that has ever passed before my eyes.
Please explain, because Tyson Jackson in this equation makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 5767196)

we took jackson instead of sanchez because we traded for cassel who replaced brady who was knocked out by pollard who was pushed by sammy morris whos a running back which is the same position as LJ who we ALSO drafted in the first round therefore we should have drafted a fullback.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 5767196)

we took jackson instead of sanchez because we traded for cassel who replaced brady who was knocked out by pollard who was pushed by sammy morris whos a running back which is the same position as LJ who we ALSO drafted in the first round therefore we should have drafted a fullback.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5767191)

BTW -- I do want to make it known that I'm totally wishing that Matt Cassel has all the success that he possibly could have. I'm not going to be dogging on him every chance I get or gloating over his mistakes or any such bullshit. Just trying to ward off any accusations, seeing as how I am taking a minority position in this thread.

I'd like to think that we can talk about contentious issues like this in the interest of discussion.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 5767199)

taking the safe route. pussy.

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5767201)

Considering the alternative is a pack of vicious n00bs ready to add to the Mecca, Hamas, et al body count, yeah.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5767202)

I miss T-Rich :(