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the Talking Can 05-27-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5796229)
I really don't see how that is any different from what we had in Carl Peterson.

Get a veteran QB. And sign a bunch of vets to fill your holes. How is that not just like Carl Peterson's strategy for years????

:banghead:

thought is not your specialty, i see....have you even tried to answer your own question?

DeezNutz 05-27-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 5796804)
They say Herms methods are unsound

"Unsound methods!" he said.

The horror. The horror.

TheGuardian 05-27-2009 03:36 PM

Wow. Talk about dumb.

Who is Zach Thomas going to help? Maybe you should ask Tim Grunhardt, who said that Mike Webster, who was on his last legs and only played in KC for a couple of years, taught him more about playing center than any coach he had.

Zach is going to help whatever player wants to become great. To help him learn how to watch film, how to prepare in the offseason, how to read offenses, how to take proper angles. It's amazing to me that I have read from so many fans that you just "go young and hope the young guy works out". Does anyone live the rest of their lives this way?

"well I'll forgo getting an inspection done on this house. It's new, I just figured I'd buy a new one and well, hope it all works out."

If a young guy can't beat out an old guy, then what does that say? The young guy either isn't ready, or he's not the future at that position. The way Pioli is doing it, is to make sure the best guys are on the field, rather than the youngest/oldest guys are on the field. You do that by filling in weak spots with PROVEN players, then drafting guys that can learn under them. What this does is create a lasting foundation for a team having high quality players.

And I thought kcbubb was dumb for arguing with me on the schematic principles of this defense. Goodness!

SAUTO 05-27-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5796910)
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If he weren't such a fantastic game day coach, I'd say the guy was kind of a failure.

FAX

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5796933)
I just spit my drink up m$y nose I was laughing so hardPosted via Mobile Device

the same thing happened to me upon reading faxy's line

Pioli Zombie 05-27-2009 08:32 PM

Yes. If I wanted one coach in a clutch end of game situation to make the right decision it would be Herm Edwards. clock management and use of time outs especially.
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SAUTO 05-27-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5797812)
Yes. If I wanted one coach in a clutch end of game situation to make the right decision it would be Herm Edwards. clock management and use of time outs especially.
Posted via Mobile Device

damn, again? the pop burns

Pioli Zombie 05-27-2009 08:45 PM

You play to **** up the game!
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Halfcan 05-27-2009 09:05 PM

Clark is going CHEAP this year to replinish the money he coughed up to renovate the stadium.

It would be nice if the Jackson County Tax payers had such a deal.

Just Passin' By 05-28-2009 12:15 AM

To illustrate the point about how veterans can help a team, I thought I'd post a passage from an article involving Dawkins and the Broncos:

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But Barrett said there’s certainly still learning going on. For him and the other defensive backs in particular, some of that learning has come from Brian Dawkins.

“I just try to take in little things,” Barrett said. “You don’t even have to ask questions, but through his actions, through his demeanor you can pretty much pick up on a lot of stuff.”
http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denver...kick-off-camp/

Earthling 05-28-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5798300)
To illustrate the point about how veterans can help a team, I thought I'd post a passage from an article involving Dawkins and the Broncos:



http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denver...kick-off-camp/

Yep.

Mecca 05-28-2009 01:22 AM

Herm was a shitty coach but the love of veterans is not really a great way to build your team, Vermiel did that and look where it left us.

Just Passin' By 05-28-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5798321)
Herm was a shitty coach but the love of veterans is not really a great way to build your team, Vermiel did that and look where it left us.

Yeah, it's really killed the Patriots this decade.

beach tribe 05-28-2009 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5798321)
Herm was a shitty coach but the love of veterans is not really a great way to build your team, Vermiel did that and look where it left us.

It would have been fine if we would have hit on a few draft picks. That's the key to everything. The reason we ended up with no talent, has nothing to do with the fact that we had veteran players. It's because we picked guys like Sims, and Siavii.

Mecca 05-28-2009 05:58 AM

They also had 0 long term planning skills, everyone knew alot of those guys could retire at any time and they continued to sink money and picks into the defense.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-28-2009 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5797847)
You play to **** up the game!
Posted via Mobile Device

You PLAY to win the draft!


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