Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 5882335)

Your last sentence was just plain ...... stupid.

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882141)

You sound awfully certain.
Let's go over what we know shall we?

Only two kids have EVER come forward.

*Evan Chandler, father and ultimate accuser in the first molestation accusation, opted for a settlement rather than justice. He was caught on tape mulling over a decision to go through with what, for all intents and purposes, was merely a well-executed extortion scheme. A scheme that subsequently lead to the beginning of the end of Jackson's career. We'll forget the fact that his son, Jordan, was under the influence of sodium amythal (see: powerful sedative) when he made his confession. A sedative administered by his FATHER. Heh...go figure. Jackson's properties were raided, but authorities were able to produce no hard evidence. AND...prosecutors were also unable to produce any corroborating witnesses. Jackson did settle, but only at the request of his attorneys and financial advisors. A lengthy trial would likely have cost him 4 or 5 times what the Chandler family received.

*In the Arvizo case...
Prosecutors were able to produce witnesses, but certainly not those with any credibility. Most of them were former employees who were involved in financial disputes with Jackson or had past criminal convictions. Michael Arvizo's mother, Janet, had a prior welfare fraud conviction. Michael Arvizo's testimony was shaky, his mother's courtroom behavior was anything but normal and the case ultimately fell apart (Jackson was found not guilty). There were also many Jackson associates who testified that nothing improper had taken place during their exposure to Jackson and his Neverland home. It should also be noted that Jackson was examined by world-renowned clinical psychologist Stan Katz, who said Jackson did NOT fit the profile of a pedophile.

But I suppose those two (lousy) accusations, in 16 years, are all you need to convict Jackson in the court of public opinion as an unrepentant child molester.

Bravo.

Originally Posted by Tom_A_Hawk (Post 5882395)

You left out the part where he thought it was o.k. to share his bed with little boys.

Originally Posted by RNR (Post 5882334)

Good to see you sticking up for a white guy :)

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882500)

ROFL

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882497)

I'll gladly engage you in that discussion if you'll kindly explain how such an activity is illegal.
Don't worry...I'll wait.

Dr. Katz said that Michael Jackson was basically a regressed 10-year old.
With that in mind sharing your bed with young children doesn't seem all that clandestine. It violates a social norm, but it isn't illegal. Nor can it be called the evidence that he molested his accusers.

Originally Posted by Groves (Post 5882154)

I appreciate your picking of an example on the tame end of exotic, that was kind.

It's pretty popular for it to be assumed that there are these kinds of hidden secrets that were they to be discovered would assure us all in our "I told you so" manner of thinking. I think this denigrates (by minimizing) the actual harm being done, and the facts are, there usually aren't these dark secrets anyway.

Mishandling the word of God is already enough to warrant our great displeasure. The thick slathering of good ol scoundrel-ness only completes the picture.

I need no other misbehaviors, public or private, to condemn their actions.

If you want to dream up some debauchery for them to be involved in, you are quite capable, indeed.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5882563)

The MJ death is a big conspiracy with the Obama administration, needing a side story to take over all the media while his bullshit 15,000 page bill goes through Congress.

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5882497)

I'll gladly engage you in that discussion if you'll kindly explain how such an activity is illegal.
Don't worry...I'll wait.

Dr. Katz said that Michael Jackson was basically a regressed 10-year old.
With that in mind sharing your bed with young children doesn't seem all that clandestine. It violates a social norm, but it isn't illegal. Nor can it be called the evidence that he molested his accusers.