Like I said, from a production standpoint, Brees and Rivers clobber Eli.

But for the Giants, they wouldn't want Brees or Rivers. You don't have to be the more productive QB to be "the guy." Cassel shouldn't have to prove he's better or worse than Sanchez. He just has to prove that he's the right guy for Kansas City. And we don't have any evidence that suggests he won't be.

If he ends up like Roethlisberger and throws 15-20 picks per year, but makes plays when he needs to, that's fine with me.

I think it comes down to that all the things you could be gloating about that the Broncos are better then the Chiefs, the qb position is the one thing you can't.

Well, I'll see y'all in Hell:

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Between the the bitch downs from Haley and the smack downs from the opposing D-Line who wouldn't have the ten mile stare. If I was him I would be so pissed at the line that the cameras would pan to Haley for more of a soft perspective.

I don't think Sanchez is ever going to be a stats monster either but the guy is a winner. That was the main reason I liked him he did all the little things right, he has the it factor.

but only one of those guys has won anything.... and thats the stat I'm concerned about it..... If Cassel wins games for the Chiefs than I won't worry what Sanchez or anyone else is doing

The Broncos are 100x times better then KC right now, I'm not afraid to admit that.

But I'd still take a 1 legged Cutler or Cassel over Orton anyday.

See here was the thing, when comparing them Sanchez is the guy I would call the gamer while Cassel was the stats guy from the NE system with Moss and Welker.

No, it comes down to the Chiefs had a chance to get a QB that looks like he is going to be a star. Instead they signed Cassell. And that's what this thread is about, which is why I'm discussing it.

...and that's why you would be a horrible coach.

Valid point.... and if that proves to be right its just the same shit we have been dealing with forever :banghead:

So basically as an outsider you agree with me, so why do a good portion of the people call me a dumbass for my take on this?

I agree with you on that. But again, based on Cassel's experience in New England, why are people so convinced he doesn't have an "it" factor of his own? He's a smart QB, a workout/film room freak, and players seem to really respond well to him. And he did very well in the final, very important stretch in the second half of the season with the Pats.

I really like Sanchez and I think the Chiefs could have gotten a good QB out of him. I always liked his upside better than Cassel. I wouldn't mind having taken Sanchez over Cassel. What I don't understand is when some people make Cassel out to be some loser QB with zero upside and that the franchise made some monumental ****-up for not taking him.

If Cassel ends up being a very good QB, nobody's going to talk about the trade, just as nobody talks about the Giants "****ing up" by taking Eli instead of Ben Roethlisberger.

If you take Pioli out of the picture and look at the last two seasons, I feel better as a fan going with the QB who has the ability to fire up everyone around him, even if he is a rook.
At this stage, I take the gamer over "math football".

Same reason the homers on the Mane get all upset with me. Because they are homers.