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LiL stumppy 10-04-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6140453)
JFC you little ****ing twerp.

How many ****ing championships has this team won in the years when they had some of the best O-Lines in the league.

In the 90s, a damn good O-Line and only one playmaker not single ****ing playmaker on offense.

In the Dick years, the best O-Line in the game and only one ****ing playmaker, and not single one on defense.

You can build O-line in the mid rounds.
Teams like the Giants do it every ****ing year.

If you are drafting at the tiop of the draft, you take potential playmakers because you need playmakers to win championships.

But you go ahead and build your O-Line you dumb****.

well see bud,the difference between now and then was...our d is a little better,good enough to make a few stops.mind boggling i know.do you kiss your mom with that mouth?im really offended


edit: for n00bs, he's one of the self appointed gurus i was talking about.

Chiefnj2 10-05-2009 07:15 AM

I really hate the argument "how many championships did we win with a dominant OL in the 90's."

Other than a really good OL, what else don't we need?

We didn't win any championships with Allen or DT, so I guess KC doesn't need a good pass rusher.

We didn't win any championships with TG, so I guess we don't need a really good TE.

We didn't win any championships with Saleamua on the line, so I guess we don't need a NT.

We didn't win any championships with Carter and Hasty at CB, so I guess we don't need any really good corners.

We didn't win any championships with Cherry or Albert, so I guess we don't need any really good DBs.

We didn't win any championships with Holmes, so I guess we don't need a HB who can score 20+ TDs a year.

We don't have any of the above, so I guess we're set. We'll start winning real soon.

LiL stumppy 10-05-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6140881)
I really hate the argument "how many championships did we win with a dominant OL in the 90's."

Other than a really good OL, what else don't we need?

We didn't win any championships with Allen or DT, so I guess KC doesn't need a good pass rusher.

We didn't win any championships with TG, so I guess we don't need a really good TE.

We didn't win any championships with Saleamua on the line, so I guess we don't need a NT.

We didn't win any championships with Carter and Hasty at CB, so I guess we don't need any really good corners.

We didn't win any championships with Cherry or Albert, so I guess we don't need any really good DBs.

We didn't win any championships with Holmes, so I guess we don't need a HB who can score 20+ TDs a year.

We don't have any of the above, so I guess we're set. We'll start winning real soon.

lmao,great post:thumb:

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-05-2009 07:33 AM

For all the talk of position value last year with Curry and then eventually Jackson, why does it seem like some of the same people are petitioning for Mays and Berry? Has the following been said here?

You just don't take a safety in the top 5. JFC. Do you realize you are potentially guaranteeing more than double the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of Sanders, Reed, and Polamalu?/CP draft expert

I know they are playmakers but.....

OnTheWarpath15 10-05-2009 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6140904)
For all the talk of position value last year with Curry and then eventually Jackson, why does it seem like some of the same people are petitioning for Mays and Berry? Has the following been said here?

You just don't take a safety in the top 5. JFC. Do you realize you are potentially guaranteeing more than double the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of Sanders, Reed, and Polamalu?/CP draft expert

I know they are playmakers but.....

As opposed to guaranteeing more than double (and in many cases triple) the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of every 3-4 DE not named Seymour?

And Jackson's not even a playmaker.

We're going to be overpaying whoever we draft, so might as well get the guy that can actually make plays.

bsp4444 10-05-2009 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 6140602)
correct grammar isn't only for class, lil stump. it makes your arguments appear more intelligent due to quality writing. it makes people want to possibly listen to you more, and helps you appear less of a dolt.

I guess correct capitalization doesn't do that?

Bane 10-05-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6140904)
For all the talk of position value last year with Curry and then eventually Jackson, why does it seem like some of the same people are petitioning for Mays and Berry? Has the following been said here?

You just don't take a safety in the top 5. JFC. Do you realize you are potentially guaranteeing more than double the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of Sanders, Reed, and Polamalu?/CP draft expert

I know they are playmakers but.....

Drafting for talent and potential talent is reeruned in the first place.That was Herm's mind set,draft the best player available and he will deliver.:banghead:

Jerm 10-05-2009 07:51 AM

I'm hoping A.J. Green continues his great season and comes out...I'd take a flyer on him, what the hell.
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-05-2009 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6140911)
As opposed to guaranteeing more than double (and in many cases triple) the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of every 3-4 DE not named Seymour?

And Jackson's not even a playmaker.

We're going to be overpaying whoever we draft, so might as well get the guy that can actually make plays.

Just sayin....and I agree about Jackson....but it's amazing how that drafting philosophy suddenly gets thrown out the window. Typically safeties stay out of the top 10 and those who were fortunate enough to crack it, haven't lived up to expectations. No pun intended for Taylor

FTR, I like both Berry and Meys.... and would be ok with either... but to criticize others for wanting to draft a LT over a safety is ridiculous by your own standards

Tribal Warfare 10-05-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 6140939)
I'm hoping A.J. Green continues his great season and comes out...I'd take a flyer on him, what the hell.
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He's a true sophmore, he's not eligible yet.

Jerm 10-05-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6140967)
He's a true sophmore, he's not eligible yet.

D'oh my bad...thought he was a Junior.
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beach tribe 10-05-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickyNicky (Post 6140424)
Our draft needs right now are:

1. TE
2. CB
3. RB
4. LT
5. Backup TE
6. QB

Perfect. Draft.

I think we need

Pass rusher
3 O-linemen
Nose Tackle
2 safteties
Power back
another pass rusher

Lono 10-05-2009 08:32 AM

We suck so bad just draft the best player. Both 2nd round picks should be on OL. 1st for a WR or Berry/Mays. I would not be opposed to trade our picks for young proven talent.

beach tribe 10-05-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6140904)
For all the talk of position value last year with Curry and then eventually Jackson, why does it seem like some of the same people are petitioning for Mays and Berry? Has the following been said here?

You just don't take a safety in the top 5. JFC. Do you realize you are potentially guaranteeing more than double the amount of guarantees set in the current contracts of Sanders, Reed, and Polamalu?/CP draft expert

I know they are playmakers but.....

Because the value, and perception of the safety position is changing. We are watching the evolution of the way that position is looked at in todays NFL. They are going to begin being drafted higher, and paid more. People are starting to recognize their value, and impact on the game. Todays safeties are becoming huge playmakers, and are moving into the realm of game changers.

Chiefnj2 10-05-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6141039)
Because the value, and perception of the safety position is changing. We are watching the evolution of the way that position is looked at in todays NFL. They are going to begin being drafted higher, and paid more. People are starting to recognize their value, and impact on the game. Todays safeties are becoming huge playmakers, and are moving into the realm of game changers.

"Playmaker" is in the eye of the beholder. If KC had a RT who could neutralize a guy like Kiwanuka/Tuck for an entire game, why isn't he a "playmaker"?


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