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mikey23545 10-05-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6142276)
Positive.

That team started 1-6 and finished 6-10. They didn't know how to use Priest until the Redskins game.

If you want to get into serious stats like those that OTWP broke out, here's a link:

http://www.databasefootball.com/team...lg=NFL&yr=2001

Damn nice website...rep.

Rausch 10-05-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 6142281)
Haley's trying to send a message.

I liked the onside kick.

Didn't work, didn't help, but he was trying.

I don't like the predictable ruts he gets into with his playcalling.

For an hour the guy will decide to find every way possible to run out of the shotgun with LJ.

Why?

LJ prefers a FB, multiple carries, and has a $#it O line to work with. If this pistol/spread/shotgun offense is what Haley wants trade LJ, move Charles in there, and quit being stubborn about fitting square pegs in round holes...

Rausch 10-05-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6142291)
IMO, the Chiefs should be running the spread 90% of the time, excluding goal line situations.

This line sucks ass and The Spread at least gives Cassel a chance to complete passes.

If so then lets do it. I don't think we have the talent for it but find what we're trying to be and ****ing commit to it. If that's the plan then let's use the best talent for it and not shift from 1st gear to 3rd, back to 2nd, up to 5th, etc.

The playcalling looks like Gunther's insane press conferences sounded...

htismaqe 10-05-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6142276)
Positive.

That team started 1-6 and finished 6-10. They didn't know how to use Priest until the Redskins game.

If you want to get into serious stats like those that OTWP broke out, here's a link:

http://www.databasefootball.com/team...lg=NFL&yr=2001

The 2001 team was 16th in points. They were 5th in yards.

Rausch 10-05-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6142295)
I don't think going pro-set or I-formation would work any better.

I disagree. In the short term I think making things simpler and infusing Haley's way into this team over time might be most productive.

I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6142295)
Cox isn't very good and we don't have a tight end who can block worth a shit. And I don't think they'd slow down the pass rush an iota on playaction unless the running plays started to actually work.

Cox is a good athlete but not much of a blocking FB. A good blocking FB is still inexpensive and why teams neglect them is beyond me...

DaneMcCloud 10-05-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6142309)
The 2001 team was 16th in points. They were 5th in yards.

Ooops.

I guess I didn't sort like I thought I did.

:redface:

Direckshun 10-05-2009 05:01 PM

This is dumb.

We played three of the top five defenses in the league in the first month.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-05-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6142380)
This is dumb.

We played three of the top five defenses in the league in the first month.

San Diego didn't seem to have a problem racking up nearly 450 passing yards against Baltimore

NO didn't seem to have a problem putting up 48 against Philly

Dallas didn't seem to struggle running all over the Giants and dropping 31 on them.

Those defenses aren't top 5 because they're necessarily great defenses. One of the reasons why they are so high is because they played our sorry asses.

Did we break 200 YPG against any of those ****s?

chiefzilla1501 10-05-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6142437)
San Diego didn't seem to have a problem racking up nearly 450 passing yards against Baltimore

NO didn't seem to have a problem putting up 48 against Philly

Dallas didn't seem to struggle running all over the Giants and dropping 31 on them.

Those defenses aren't top 5 because they're necessarily great defenses. One of the reasons why they are so high is because they played our sorry asses.

Did we break 200 YPG against any of those ****s?

Philly, NY, and Baltimore are known year in and year out for fielding outstanding defenses. Baltimore's defense, I don't think, is as good as year's passed. But that's a touch benchmark if we're expected to put up as many points as Dallas or especially New Orleans. Most offenses struggle against those 3 defenses.

Tiger's Fan 10-05-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6142437)
San Diego didn't seem to have a problem racking up nearly 450 passing yards against Baltimore

NO didn't seem to have a problem putting up 48 against Philly

Dallas didn't seem to struggle running all over the Giants and dropping 31 on them.

Those defenses aren't top 5 because they're necessarily great defenses. One of the reasons why they are so high is because they played our sorry asses.

Did we break 200 YPG against any of those ****s?

Are you really this stupid?

Some chick should kick your ass again.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-05-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6142471)
Philly, NY, and Baltimore are known year in and year out for fielding outstanding defenses. Baltimore's defense, I don't think, is as good as year's passed. But that's a touch benchmark if we're expected to put up as many points as Dallas or especially New Orleans. Most offenses struggle against those 3 defenses.

The same Dallas offense that put up 10 last week? Or 13 against Carolina?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-05-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6142547)
Are you really this stupid?

Please, continue to obfuscate and say absolutely nothing, you stupid ****. It's not like it's completely transparent or anything.

Mecca 10-05-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6142572)
Please, continue to obfuscate and say absolutely nothing, you stupid ****. It's not like it's completely transparent or anything.

If you haven't noticed that is how he posts, he never has a take or a view on anything.

chiefbowe82 10-05-2009 06:37 PM

hey mecca can i get you to evaluate a player for me?

boogblaster 10-05-2009 07:25 PM

There was improvement this week ... very little but some ... the draws in the fourth killed us ... plus the first play of the game ... our D gave up too many running plays ... we had a couple bad calls from the refs ... but still I see a small improvement ....


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