Originally Posted by orange (Post 6151657)

Because the NFL rulebook says I'm right.


Rule Change No. 3: Unnecessary roughness has been expanded to include shots to a defenseless receiver's head.
The amendment states, a penalty will be called "If the initial force of the contact by a defender's helmet, forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver who is catching or attempting to catch a pass."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/archiv...ate=03-31-2009

Originally Posted by orange (Post 6151910)

Once again, you have lept to an unwarranted conclusion.

I have made NO such remission. I still say the call was right. I still say the Teicher article is completely unclear as to whether the league now says there should have been a penalty.

I HAVE allowed that IF the League has backed off, it could ONLY BE because they've decided it wasn't the neck area. Be that as it may, it was close enough to force the ref to make a judgement call. A smarter play would not do that.

Originally Posted by orange (Post 6151910)

Once again, you have lept to an unwarranted conclusion.

I have made NO such remission. I still say the call was right. I still say the Teicher article is completely unclear as to whether the league now says there should have been a penalty.

I HAVE allowed that IF the League has backed off, it could ONLY BE because they've decided it wasn't the neck area. Be that as it may, it was close enough to force the ref to make a judgement call. A smarter play would not do that.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6151927)

If the call was right Page would be getting a fine. No fine no foul.

Originally Posted by orange (Post 6151814)

Why it's important to Page:

2008 NFL Fine Schedule

Flagrant Personal Foul
Suspension or fine; severity to be determined by degree of violation; the fine may be $10,000 or higher for first offense.

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6151919)

:spock::rolleyes: YOU are impossible. I can't argue with crazy people. I'm out...

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6151943)

Pretty much. Time to move on.

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6151950)

Orange is just trolling at this point.

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6151496)

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=215771 Hey, Orange. Read this when you get time...

Originally Posted by orange (Post 6151935)

This is not correct. All Unnecessary Roughness penalties don't draw a fine - only flagrant ones. I posted the point a few posts up.

Originally Posted by orange (Post 6151970)

Trolling, huh? Who the hell brought it up - OFF TOPIC - on my thread?




Oh yeah, it was YOU.

I guess you just need me to validate your existence for some reason.

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 6152035)

Notice after the play the Giants reciever getting up and clapping. He knew because it was an Eli Manning pass on a key drive the refs were going to give him the call. To be fair one of the Chiefs safety made a hit that could've been flagged. But unfortuately it was after the game was already out of reach.

Orange you should agree to disagree. You are one of the donk fans on here that is civil. Let it go it's over with.

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6152175)

Yes, it was a bad non-call on Carr with a forearm to the helmet. I was arguing with Orange because he is wrong. He was proven wrong. Its not just me and a few others saying he's wrong. Video proved it. I don't care if this call screwed the Chiefs. Good teams overcome penalties. I want the officials to make the correct call.