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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6183537)

Except in the playoffs.

A guy who gets little press and is stupid good is Brees of the Saints. The playoff/Superbowl argument is most likely why. Peyton Manning is one of the best QBs I have seen. He has shit the bed in some big games though.

i say that brady is one of the best. peyton has problems, but brees is the best out of the best.

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6181982)

Earlier in his career, Brady was throwing to such luminaries as David Patten and Jermaine Wiggins. And their offense has never had a TE as good as what Peyton's had. In addition, Peyton's had a HOF WR in Harrison for MOST of his career, whereas Brady has had Moss for a couple of seasons. In addition, Manning had a HOF RB in Marshall Faulk and another guy (Edgerrin James) who looked well on the path there for a while.

In addition, Brady is coming back from major knee surgery. It's been five games. How did Manning look last year, coming back from major knee surgery? Just about the same.

As for Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon, you easily chalk that up to a case of "great QB throwing to scrubs". We'll have to wait a few seasons before we decide how good or how average those guys are.

Sorry have to disagree but there is a reason when players leave Indy they are not as good.. Peyton makes everyone way better then they are..

Right now Brett Favre is the MVP of the NFL-6-0 12 TD'S 2 come from behind wins.

Peyton is tied for second with Brees.

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 6184530)

Sorry have to disagree but there is a reason when players leave Indy they are not as good.. Peyton makes everyone way better then they are..

How many players left New England and were still good?

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6184612)

How many players left New England and were still good?

Asante Samuel is the only one that comes to mind.

Watching the game? That right there is one of many reasons Tom is better, that flea flicker in the snow, perfect pass right in triple coverage, smooth....................

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6181999)

Tom Brady DOES NOTHING BETTER than Peyton Manning...he is inferior in every way in terms of being an NFL QB...and those who say he is a "winner" or is more "clutch"...are just idiots. That's really all I can say about that.

You started the thread you ****ing idiot. To me its remindful of the Bird and Magic rivalry. Each season one guy would seem to get the edge and the other would come back the next season better and it went back and forth for a decade. Manning had the edge in supporting cast for years and didn't win while Brady won 3 Super Bowls with inferior talent. Then Manning got a defense and running game in 2006 and won it all. Then Brady got Moss and Welker and moved ahead. Then Brady got hurt and Manning has improved. They have pushed each other, IMHO into the top 5 with Montana, Unitas, and Elway maybe a notch ahead. In 3 to 5 years they may be higher up. Either ways its idiotic to degrade the other because you like your guy. So far this year Manning is Magic in 1987 to Bradys 2007, which was like Bird at his peak in 1986.
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6184612)

How many players left New England and were still good?

Oh the rich, meaty irony...:evil:

palmer sure looked good today LMAO

Brady has lost it. Only has over 300 yards and 4 TDs in the first half.
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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6184768)

palmer sure looked good today LMAO

He looked a hell of a lot better than the guy we traded away who is going to be converted to WR who you claimed was better.

He also played a hell of a lot better than our QB did today.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6184832)

He looked a hell of a lot better than the guy we traded away who is going to be converted to WR who you claimed was better.

He also played a hell of a lot better than our QB did today.

So...he played better than Cassel today?

I have a feeling you didn't catch a single drive of the Texans game ROFL

Palmer was GOD awful. LMAO

5 TD's in on quarter. NFL record.

I could throw 10 TD's in one quarter against the Titans.