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DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215910)
Louis Murphy has been targeted more than Bowe.

Louis.

Murphy.

And that's with Oakland having 30 fewer pass attempts.

He's a guy I had in my mock with our 4th round pick.

He would have been a nice complementary receiver to Bowe IMO.

It'll sicken me to know end if he ends up with better numbers than Bowe while playing with the worst QB in the league, bar none.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6215923)
How do you know that? What if Jackson turns out to be a top lineman?
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All that 3-4 defensive ends are expected to do is swallow up blockers so that the linebackers can rush the QB and make plays.

He'll have to be the second coming Richard Seymour to make an impact.

Pioli Zombie 10-28-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215925)
All that 3-4 defensive ends are expected to do is swallow up blockers so that the linebackers can rush the QB and make plays.

He'll have to be the second coming Richard Seymour to make an impact.

How do you know he won't?
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DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6215874)
That makes entirely too much sense.

Not to mention the positions we drafted were mainly D-line (3-4 DE) which take some time to develop. Not like a corner who can come in and be as noticeable immediately.

Huh?

Are you telling me that it's going to take a "few years" for a guy that was taken #3 overall time to "develop"?

#3 overall? If that's the case, he's the wrong ****ing guy.


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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6215874)
Donald Washington was a known project as well. Just like Morgan was supposed to be 2 years ago.

Morgan was drafted in the 2008 draft. By my count (and I could be wrong), that was last year.

Pioli Zombie 10-28-2009 08:29 PM

After 7 games Richard Seymour wasn't making much of an impact while Patriot fans were still wishing they drafted David Terrell.
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DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6215968)
After 7 games Richard Seymour wasn't making much of an impact while Patriot fans were still wishing they drafted David Terrell.
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So you're implying that just because Tyson Jackson plays the same position as Richard Seymour, Tyson Jackson will have the same impact as Richard Seymour?

Do I have that right?

Marcellus 10-28-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215956)
Huh?

Are you telling me that it's going to take a "few years" for a guy that was taken #3 overall time to "develop"?

#3 overall? If that's the case, he's the wrong ****ing guy.




Morgan was drafted in the 2008 draft. By my count (and I could be wrong), that was last year.

Who said a few years? 7 games Dane, 7 games.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215976)
So you're implying that just because Tyson Jackson plays the same position as Richard Seymour, Tyson Jackson will have the same impact as Richard Seymour?

Do I have that right?

WHOO!

Matt Cassel is going to have the same impact as Joe Montana!

Mecca 10-28-2009 08:35 PM

What if he's Marcus Spears then all of the sudden our pick is trash.

Not to mention Spears is from the same college and was actually far more productive of a college player.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6215978)
Who said a few years? 7 games Dane, 7 games.

I know but it's still not an "impact" position.

The Chiefs could have signed Ohlshansky or Canty in free agency and our defense wouldn't be any better or worse.

Yet, the number three pick could have been used elsewhere.

I don't care for Pioli's personnel decisions to this point.

Pioli Zombie 10-28-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215979)
WHOO!

Matt Cassel is going to have the same impact as Joe Montana!

Don't be a ****ing reerun. I said "How do you know he won't be a top lineman?". Had nothing to do with with because he plays the same position. You guys can be such stupid ass holes sometimes.
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Pioli Zombie 10-28-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6215980)
What if he's Marcus Spears then all of the sudden our pick is trash.

Not to mention Spears is from the same college and was actually far more productive of a college player.

Well if it turns out that he sucks then it will be horrible pick. But after 7 games you don't know it was a horrible pick.
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Pioli Zombie 10-28-2009 08:50 PM

Besides you can't criticize Tyson Jackson, Mecca. He's only 22!!!!!!!!!
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DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6216006)
Don't be a ****ing reerun. I said "How do you know he won't be a top lineman?". Had nothing to do with with because he plays the same position. You guys can be such stupid ass holes sometimes.
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Where did you say that?

Here's what you actually said:

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6215968)
After 7 games Richard Seymour wasn't making much of an impact while Patriot fans were still wishing they drafted David Terrell.
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Please explain because the words in those two quotes appear to me to be quite different and appear to have a different meaning.

Chiefless 10-28-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6214535)
I think this is the key thing in there. Pioli didn't take this job to fit in the "six to eight" players that Herm thought we were away from competing for the playoffs, he took over this team to rip it apart and build an entirely new team from ground up, I'm guessing because he has a philosophy he believes in, he saw an owner who was going to have the patience and give him the support to do it, and he saw a team that he felt was fundamentally flawed and would never be in a position to compete for Super Bowls in the direction they were going.

Now we gotta pray that Pioli knows what he's doing, because he's basically going about this like the Chiefs are an expansion team (and, at 4-12 and 2-14, they essentially were)...

Agree. This team may be 6 to 8 players from competing for 4-12.


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