Eh, I'm definitely willing to give him another year. Hopefully we upgrade some positions this offseason. It would be nice if we actually have a group of receivers that doesn't change every single week during the season as well. I'm not sure I've EVER seen a team that juggled receivers and TEs like this team has. Hard to have any kind of continuity with that. Same could be said for offensive line. How many different combinations have we had at O-line this year.

Look, I'm not saying Cassel is or isn't the answer at this point. I was, and still am, a supporter of him obviously, but even the biggest Cassel critic has to admit that this has been some sort of perfect storm as far as things that could hinder a QB's productivity.

From the start of the season, we have:

a different starting tailback
a different starting fullback
a different starting flanker
our split end, and best playmaker, missed 4 games in the middle of the year, and missed time due to injury earlier in the year IIRC
a different starting slot receiver
a different starting tight end
a different starting right tackle
a different starting right guard

and these are all just different starters from the beginning of the year. Continuity does count for something in the passing game. I'm not claiming in any way that many of the changes haven't been significant upgrades that should help Cassel (ie. Charles, Chambers), but it is hard to develop continuity with so many in-season offseason changes.

This doesn't even count our dumbass HC waiting until the week of the first game to fire the offensive coordinator and scrapping the playbook that he had spent all of last offseason learning and working with.

Yep. And if there isn't significant improvement with the deep ball this offseason going into next year, then I think the QB position should be a priority.

He had a pretty solid game. Nothing awe-inspiring, and at least three total WTF throws, but if you're judging by the stat-line alone he had a good day.

Probably should have been more like 23/30 or so really.

When you lollypop a long throw know what that means...your arm is weak.

I honestly don't know what can make a QB's deep ball so widely varied...

Is it footwork, release points, a combo of the two or what?

Because sometimes he'll throw like 40 yards with decent zip and go right over the wideout, and another time he'll throw 30 yards straight up into the sun.

It's a mixture of not being an accurate passer and not having an overly strong arm.

I think it's release point, usually. That, and opening up too much with your front foot instead of stepping into your throw. When your shoulders open up too much, you're throwing with all arm instead of using your legs. With Cassel, I think he still doesn't trust/understand his pocket, so sometimes, he isn't stepping into his throw at all.

I agree, he doesn't have a strong arm. But, neither does Matt Ryan. Neither does Mark Sanchez. If that is a factor for you, then I don't understand your love of these two guys with average arm strength.

They're more accurate passers than Cassel is.

I think it's a bit early to make that proclamation about Sanchez. He has been far from accurate this year.

Sanchez has a stronger arm than Ryan or Cassel.

Cassel has similar arm strength to Phillip Rivers. Which isn't amazing, but it's definitely serviceable.

Only Rivers has worked on his wind-up deep ball delivery and can throw it deep accurately.

Cassel makes just about anyone look accurate, he's so wildly inconsistent with it you don't know what throw you are getting from play to play.

That's definitely debatable.

Then that should be your gripe... not that he doesn't have a strong arm.

I am far from 'impressed' with him. But, I also think he isn't nearly as bad as some on this board think.

I don't think Sanchez has a stronger arm in the least.