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Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6349405)
Oops in bold?
ROFL

Direckshun 12-15-2009 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6349404)
Yes, but with Haleys Hitleresque training camp, whos to say that he won't be in shape to play more?
That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.

SDChiefs 12-15-2009 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6349410)
people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round
We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.

Direckshun 12-15-2009 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6349410)
people are already talking about how Mays is probably better suited to play linebacker in the NFL because he's such a liability in pass coverage.

Dallas had the same problem with Roy williams ... they just couldn't afford to have him on the field because teams would go after him in the passing game.

you don't take a guy without a position in the 1st round.

Mays = 2nd round
Fail.

A great safety that can cover obscene distance is like a NT that demands two and sometimes three blockers: it frees up the rest of your defense.

Get Morgan and Mays out there and our corners don't have to play so far off the LOS.

DeezNutz 12-15-2009 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6349414)
That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.
They do? They're concerned about max. impact with high-round selections? Really?

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6349415)
We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.
he probably wont' sniff round 2 but that doesn't mean he shouldn't.

somebody will reach because he is gonna look great in t-shirt and shorts at the combine.

hey, maybe he turns into Brian Urlacher and becomes a great LB but for everyone position switch guy that works out, 50 don't.

can the Chiefs afford the high risk pick like that?

ToxSocks 12-15-2009 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6349415)
We need LB help too. Can't beat someone who could play both. I highly doubt Mays even sniffs the 2nd rd.
I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a reeruned contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.

suds79 12-15-2009 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6349414)
That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.
Do they? I think that's a mistake. Got to have that huge guy in the middle.

Anybody here watch Pat games? What's Wilfork do on 3rd down? I've got to imagine he comes off the field.

My guess is Pioli will follow suit.

beach tribe 12-15-2009 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6349414)
That's also why I think we won't draft him.

Haley and Pioli want a three-down NT.
Wilfork doesn't play every down does he?

SDChiefs 12-15-2009 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6349431)
he probably wont' sniff round 2 but that doesn't mean he shouldn't.

somebody will reach because he is gonna look great in t-shirt and shorts at the combine.

hey, maybe he turns into Brian Urlacher and becomes a great LB but for everyone position switch guy that works out, 50 don't.

can the Chiefs afford the high risk pick like that?
I personally don't think its a high risk, and I don't think he will have any problem being a Safety in the NFL either. I think taking a 5'9 safety who will probably be shorter come combine is more of a risk. As I have said before though, I would be happy with either and think both are worth whatever risks they present.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6349434)
I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a reeruned contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.
welcome to the dark side, young padawan.

i don't hate Cassel and the trade for him was fine ... signing him to a long term contract was NOT fine.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2009 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6349441)
I personally don't think its a high risk, and I don't think he will have any problem being a Safety in the NFL either. I think taking a 5'9 safety who will probably be shorter come combine is more of a risk. As I have said before though, I would be happy with either and think both are worth whatever risks they present.
we just disagree about how good Mays is then.

fair enough, bro.

SDChiefs 12-15-2009 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6349434)
I don't know man, I just began doing some better homework on these players, and it seems like Mays is the opposite of what we need. Im starting to flip flop on my earlier thoughts. We need players with ball skills and know how to tackle. Some people are thinking Mays has bust written all over him.

Shit, after watching more of Clausen, im really wishing we didn't sign Cassel to such a reeruned contract. He's my #1 right now. Im really digging on Golden Tate too.
You and me both. Cassel is a bum. I thought he was when we picked him up and was hoping I was wrong. Chock it up to Piolis first major decision=FAIL! Hopefully he cuts his losses and moves on before we have a Jamarcus Russell scenario.

DrRyan 12-15-2009 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6349412)
I look at Boo Robinson and I think Darnell Dockett.
If Robinson ends up playing like Dockett in a Chiefs uniform I would be ecstatic.

Chiefnj2 12-15-2009 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6349464)
If Robinson ends up playing like Dockett in a Chiefs uniform I would be ecstatic.
You want to draft him and move him to DE?


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