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Titty Meat 12-27-2009 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6382318)
The importance of the safety position, especially in a 3-4, has gone up exponentially over the last few years. A few teams have taken safeties in the top 5 or close to it, and almost none of them regret it. In my opinion, it's one of the top 3 most important positions in a 3-4.
It's been discussed before, Spiller wouldn't take the ball out of Charles hands infact the opposite. This is the reason the Chiefs have sucked at drafting, drafting to fill a position opposed to drafting the best player is stupid.

Brock 12-27-2009 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6382318)
The importance of the safety position, especially in a 3-4, has gone up exponentially over the last few years. A few teams have taken safeties in the top 5 or close to it, and almost none of them regret it. In my opinion, it's one of the top 3 most important positions in a 3-4.
Sean Taylor is the only safety taken in the top 5 and it was *at* 5 in the last 10 years. That's as far back as I cared to look.

Mecca 12-27-2009 03:40 PM
Basically everyone thinks Detroit is taking Gerald McCoy so you should list him....

Mecca 12-27-2009 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6382335)
Sean Taylor is the only safety taken in the top 5 and it was at 5 in the last 10 years. That's as far back as I cared to look.
Eric Turner went 2nd back in the day.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-27-2009 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6382300)
How is what I said about Crabtree wrong, last years class was deep with no real elite prospect.

I said Crabtree wasn't worth a top 5 pick because there wasn't enough separating him and Hakeem Nicks who would go 20 some odd picks later and guess what...there still isn't as Nicks has performed better than Crabtree.
Do you consider the fact that Crabtree missed all of training camp? Or that Nicks has a better QB getting him the ball?

Just giving you crap, don't take it personal.

Mecca 12-27-2009 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6382340)
Do you consider the fact that Crabtree missed all of training camp? Or that Nicks has a better QB getting him the ball?

Just giving you crap, don't take it personal.
I just give my views, I wouldn't use a top 5 pick on a WR unless he was a truly elite prospect that didn't lack anything physically.

I think both Bryant and Williams are 10-20 type of prospects I thought the same of Crabtree, just because I didn't want the Chiefs to take him 3rd doesn't mean I hated him. My favorite receiver was Nicks and well he's value is obviously much better to his team for where he was picked.

KC kid 12-27-2009 03:43 PM
Is Mccoy really that good?

Titty Meat 12-27-2009 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6382337)
Basically everyone thinks Detroit is taking Gerald McCoy so you should list him....
lol that guy is OVERRATED.

chiefzilla1501 12-27-2009 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6382334)
It's been discussed before, Spiller wouldn't take the ball out of Charles hands infact the opposite. This is the reason the Chiefs have sucked at drafting, drafting to fill a position opposed to drafting the best player is stupid.
Charles should be getting 20 carries per game. If you draft Spiller, you probably limit him to 10.

Explain how this doesn't take the ball out of Charles' hands?

Because the only explanation I've heard is that they run a gimmick split-back offense, an offense that even one of the best offensive minds, Norv Turner, doesn't run with two outstanding backs.

BryanBusby 12-27-2009 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 6382346)
Is Mccoy really that good?
He would of been the monster DT if it wasn't for Suh. Not as dominating of course, but has better technique.

Mecca 12-27-2009 03:45 PM
I don't think Charles can make it through a season taking 20 carries a game.

Mecca 12-27-2009 03:46 PM
McCoy is more of a penetrating type of DT, he's going to go in the top 5 so it's not really outlandish to think Detroit will take him.

dirk digler 12-27-2009 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6382334)
It's been discussed before, Spiller wouldn't take the ball out of Charles hands infact the opposite. This is the reason the Chiefs have sucked at drafting, drafting to fill a position opposed to drafting the best player is stupid.
Why wouldn't he?

KC kid 12-27-2009 03:46 PM
There would be a mutiny if KC took a DT at 3. The only pick KC can make that will be considered a good pick across the town is Berry

KC kid 12-27-2009 03:47 PM
So is it a given for st louis to take a qb?


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