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Mecca 12-27-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6384610)
And yes, at this rate, if our strategy is to take the ball out of our QB's hands because our QB continues to play like this, then it's not going to matter who's running the ball. We're not going anywhere.

That's what we're stuck with but honestly Spiller is the best offensive playmaker in this draft.

Mecca 12-27-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 6384611)
Unfortunately we only have one first round pick... We can't draft Berry and Spiller unless Pioli does some serious trading up in the draft.

I know I'm just saying when people act like it's Berry or bust it's not there are some options here.

kcfanXIII 12-28-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6384619)
I know I'm just saying when people act like it's Berry or bust it's not there are some options here.

options? i thought the chiefs had to go oline....

Mecca 12-28-2009 12:05 AM

Yea if we take Russ Okung in front of CJ Spiller I'm going to stop giving a shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-28-2009 12:07 AM

Every pick is important. Some are more important than others, but the only teams who act like late picks don't matter are the ones who can't do it for shit.

Tribal Warfare 12-28-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6384648)
Yea if we take Russ Okung in front of CJ Spiller I'm going to stop giving a shit.

Don't forget Cody

chiefzilla1501 12-28-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6384619)
I know I'm just saying when people act like it's Berry or bust it's not there are some options here.

If Berry isn't there, I don't see anybody on the board that's more valuable than a trade down unless Clausen grades well. I wouldn't have a problem with either. I would rather trade out of the pick for Spiller and if I'm going to have a playmaker, I'd much rather have it be a reach for an every-down guy like McClain or Haden. Maybe Taylor Mays (again, depending on draft grade).

Ideally, if no Berry or Clausen, maybe Suh carries enough trade value to trade out of the pick. With no CBA, the trade value for a marquee prospect like that might be a lot higher than usual.

Mecca 12-28-2009 12:12 AM

The Chiefs missed Wesley Woodyard, Brandon Siler and Dannell Ellerbee to take scrubs..

Funny how Siler starts for a good San Diego defense when Hamas and I screamed for him and were told "who cares it's just a 7th round pick"

chiefzilla1501 12-28-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6384619)
I know I'm just saying when people act like it's Berry or bust it's not there are some options here.

mecca, where do you think Dan Williams grades. Is he someone to look at in the 2nd round? Or is there another NT we should be looking at first?

Mecca 12-28-2009 12:13 AM

I'd love to know why Rolando McClain is so highly regarded.

DeezNutz 12-28-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6384667)
If Berry isn't there, I don't see anybody on the board that's more valuable than a trade down unless Clausen grades well. I wouldn't have a problem with either. I would rather trade out of the pick for Spiller and if I'm going to have a playmaker, I'd much rather have it be a reach for an every-down guy like McClain or Haden. Maybe Taylor Mays (again, depending on draft grade).

Ideally, if no Berry or Clausen, maybe Suh carries enough trade value to trade out of the pick. With no CBA, the trade value for a marquee prospect like that might be a lot higher than usual.

No one is trading up b/c of the $$$.

If there's no one worth taking, and you're the Chiefs who need every****ingthing, who in the world is trading up and why?

chiefzilla1501 12-28-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6384675)
I'd love to know why Rolando McClain is so highly regarded.

Don't know anything about him. Just basing it off what people tell me.

Mecca 12-28-2009 12:18 AM

I've seen Alabama play a shit ton of times, he's a good player and everything but I don't see him standing out like he's being talked about. Plus he plays behind a huge line and basically always runs free.

As far as Williams he'll probably be overvalued due to all the 3-4 teams.

chiefzilla1501 12-28-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6384678)
No one is trading up b/c of the $$$.

If there's no one worth taking, and you're the Chiefs who need every****ingthing, who in the world is trading up and why?

1. In an uncapped year, nobody cares about $$'s like they used to
2. With no CBA agreement, no marquee free agents are out there, so the draft is your best way of getting a marquee player
3. If we pick in front of Tampa Bay, there's no way he falls passed the Bucs.
4. The talent gap between Suh and the next best is pretty significant

Trade-downs rarely happen. But I still wonder if this is a year when it's more likely to happen.

Mecca 12-28-2009 12:26 AM

It's probably less likely, teams will realize a lockout followed by new CBA likely means rookie slotting.

I wouldn't want to be the last team that had to pay a rookie 70 million dollars.


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