Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396310)

Yeah.

Aren't you the dumbass that I argued with about David Carr?

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6396313)

Brees first few seasons were hardly accurate (in comparison to him now)

55%, 60%, 57%

It wasn't until his third season that he became so accurate.

Cassel was a 63% guy last year in New England. This year even with all of the ridiculous amount of drops he's still at 55%. Take away half the drops and he's probably in the 58-59% range. I think he has a long ball accuracy issue. On the short and intermediate routes? No.

He def holds onto the ball too long, however in New England he improved in every category as the season went, including getting sacked. He was sacked 28 times in the first 8 games, and 19 times in the last 8. So the guy got better.

This year he's in a new system, behind a bad line, with no running game early, and WR's who can't catch. If you can't show me a QB who is going to look great with all of those issues let me know. Either way, I'm not a Cassel fan but the guy has had the deck stacked against him for the get go here. I am willing to give the guy another year.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396245)

I am not making a case for Cassel.

I am only pointing out a fact.

Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 6396325)

And you are the "milktoast" 'WHO' supposedly "KNOWS ALL"???? Are you and Mecca brothers???? Carr's psyche was ruined "hands down" with an outstanding O-line in Houston:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 6396332)

Ummmmmm.... indirectly you are :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396255)

Brees has never had the accuracy issues that Cassel has.

His problem was his inability to read defenses and make good decisions.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396326)

His (Brees) completion percentage wasn't due to a lack of accuracy.

They were due to the fact that he was making bad decisions because of his inability to make good reads.

When he did make good reads, his balls were perfectly placed.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396338)

Are you an actual shrink?

How many of your patients haven't committed suicide?

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6396341)

Well first off, it's a reach to say you can draw back on exactly what a guys percentage problems were from that many years ago.

Second, you're saying that he got better at reading defenses with more playing time? I think this is the case for most smart QB's. And I don't think Cassel is a dumb guy. So again, I'm willing to give the guy at least another year to improve.

I wonder what this board thought about Trent Green after his first season in KC in a system he was familiar with? I bet that would be a hoot to look back on.

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6396341)

I wonder what this board thought about Trent Green after his first season in KC in a system he was familiar with? I bet that would be a hoot to look back on.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396351)

I can draw back on that time, because I live in california, and not only saw almost all the Charger games, but listened to the interviews on the the San Diego sports talk radio with Marty, AJ Smith and Brees.

Brees spent his entire offseason working on film study to learn and improve his ability to make reads.
Both Marty and AJ Smith were ready to move on, but Brees was determined to prove he could play at the NFL level.

And Cassel's big problem is a lack of accuracy beyond 10 yards, even when he does make a good read.
That was never Brees problem.

Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 6396354)

Precisely!!!:clap: Although I give "Phobia" credit for the term "TrINT" after his first yr, that was funny!!!

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396351)

I can draw back on that time, because I live in california, and not only saw almost all the Charger games, but listened to the interviews on the the San Diego sports talk radio with Marty, AJ Smith and Brees.

Brees spent his entire offseason working on film study to learn and improve his ability to make reads.
Both Marty and AJ Smith were ready to move on, but Brees was determined to prove he could play at the NFL level.

And Cassel's big problem is a lack of accuracy beyond 10 yards, even when he does make a good read.
That was never Brees problem.

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6396341)

Well first off, it's a reach to say you can draw back on exactly what a guys percentage problems were from that many years ago.

Second, you're saying that he got better at reading defenses with more playing time? I think this is the case for most smart QB's. And I don't think Cassel is a dumb guy. So again, I'm willing to give the guy at least another year to improve.

I wonder what this board thought about Trent Green after his first season in KC in a system he was familiar with? I bet that would be a hoot to look back on.