what in the hell does Waters have to do with changing the coaches?

if waters really wants to get thing iron out he can stop missing blocks.

Jeez, Mr. Chiefnj2. You're an awesome Planeteer with posting prowess that is the envy of internet users throughout the world, but come on ...

That whole thing was Whittle's version of events. Nobody but Nick Athan knows the real story. Clearly, Waters wasn't treated like the superstar, in-his-prime, game-changing, left guard that he is, but when all the smoke cleared and the chips hit the floor and the fat lady belted out high C after clutching her giant panties in one hand and a dead rat in the other, Waters showed up for camp and did his job (not so well, I might add). So, whatever happened couldn't have been all that bad.

Besides, if Haley did indeed state that he could win 2 games with 22 guys off the street, he essentially proved that claim to be correct. We've gone through years of Uncle Dick's weeping and unwarranted loyalty and Herm's "player friendly until it's time to throw your ass under the bus" approach. It was past time to bring in a guy who could crack the whip and get these guys to either shape up or hit the bricks.

FAX

The problem is, he showed up two days before the draft was to happen without an appointment and under contract wanting to know what the new regime was planning. Busiest time of the season for a brand new admin and coach and he shows up unannounced and uninvited and wants a sit down with the brass about the direction of the team? As an aging guard that's already under contract? That's ridiculous.

Bingo. In fact, Haley showed it was possible to win FOUR games with 22 guys off the street and do something that Dick or Herm was unable to do - win at Invesco (with the playoffs on the line to boot!).

Because fact of the matter is, top to bottom, the Chiefs are probably the least talented team in the league. The offensive line is made of one first round draft pick that's playing out of position (Albert), and a converted free agent full back that made his name playing between Roaf and Weigmann (Waters), and a bunch of first day cut cast offs from various teams. Linebackers? Other than an overachieving converted 4-3 LDE, an aging ROLB forced to play SSOLB (Vrabel) because your former frist round draft pick at SSOLB only decides to show up twice a year (Johnson), there's a bunch of special teamers at best at the rest of the positions (Mays, Williams) and one rookie who shows a little promise (Belcher). Tight end? Please. Defensive line? Rookie and a bunch of guys playing in the wrong scheme. Safety? Tragic.

I mean, other than Flowers, Cassel, Charles (who was finally given a chance due to LJ's ineptitude), Vrabel, Hali and possibly Albert, it would be hard to find anyone on this team that could/would challenge for a starting position on another team in the league. Jackson might, but he's a rook and had the learning curve thrown at him. Dorsey is so obviously out of position it borders on sad - please trade him for his sake and the teams sake.

Four games with 22 guys off the street. I think Haley short changed himself.

Albert is not out of position.

That is not being a professional, he should have made an appointment and shown some respect for the new regimes time. They were trying to put together a staff and get ready for the draft.

No matter how you spin it, he was wrong. He was trying to do then, the same as he is now, make sure his job is safe. Nothing more, nothing less.

Furthermore, the distraction that Water's caused at that time, was anything but being a team leader. He was just another problem the new regime had to deal with.

Square peg in a round hole. The guy could be a dominating Pro Bowl level LG in this league. Let him be one. Let's get a guy in here that can actually play LT at a high level so Albert can be that special guy on the line - at his natural position.

ROFL

He is going to be an excellent left tackle. He has clearly gotten over his little slump as proven by the last month. He SHUT DOWN Dumervil Sunday.

How do you know that he'd be a pro bowl LG???

The guy had a real nice rookie year at LT. Started slow this year but finished strong.

And you already want to move our 1st rounder to a position that is normally filled by 5th round type of guys? We're talking about a Guard here...

We spent our 1st on a LT and we have one. We need interior O-line help and that can be filled middle to late in the draft.

I don't know. I wouldn't complain if the Chiefs picked Okung, Campbell or Davis in the draft with their first pick or Beadles or Fox in the second/third and move Albert over to guard. Why not better two positions on the line rather than keep hoping that some guy will improve as he learns to play a new position? Albert, at this stage, has got to be an improvement over Waters at the LG position and a guy like Beadles or Black or Okung or Davis have played LT almost exclusively through their entire four year college career. Albert at LG would help make the transition from college to the pros a much faster one for both a new LT and a new C (which we all know we need). It's a win-win scenario for everyone.

I hope you don't go to a game next year because Haley will flip you off for this.

Our first rounder never played a snap at LT until camp with the Chiefs. We drafted a LG with a first round pick. That's the fact of the matter. We are talking about a guard here. We did not spend our first round pick on a LT. He was a guard. And we do need interior line help. He would be that help. And he would be a major assest in developing both a new LT and a new C.

Fully disagree.

First off, left guard is NOT his natural position. Period.

Secondly, he has neither the upper or lower body strength to take on DT's and MLB's.

Thirdly, he plays best in space. He shut down Dumerville on Sunday.

He would be an absolutely failure at left guard.

He's a left tackle. Leave him the **** alone.

JFC.

He was a GUARD because Eugene Monroe was incapable of playing anything but left tackle, so Albert moved to guard.

He is NOT a natural guard.