It has nothing to do with catching passes. It has to do with Forte getting yards after contact.

I respectfully disagree.

You don't gain over 1200 yards rushing, averaging 4 a pop with 8 TD's and just be an average back.

He didn't catch 70 he caught 63 for 477 yds. This year he caught 57 for 471 yds. Hardly any difference.

He regressed or the O-line regressed

It probably doesn't help that the Bears are under this illusion that Devin Hester can play WR.

Well that line is really awful.

I agree with that. We saw that firsthand when they had Dante start to play WR and his returns went to shit

Yeah, I caught this act with Dante Hall a few years ago.

No, no. We're going to be arguing semantics here.

What I meant is that in '08, he wasn't making remarkable runs, shedding lots of tacklers, making people miss. In other words, being the Jamaal Charles we saw for the last half of this year.

I saw a solid, versatile back in Forte.

Yeah, top 10 QBs throw the ball to the other team 25 times in a season.

Before I even mentioned Jay Cutler, I would take:

Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Philip Rivers
Donovan McNabb
Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Tony Romo
Matt Ryan
Kurt Warner
Ben Roethlisburger
Eli Manning
Matt Schaub
Brett Favre
Joe Flacco
Carson Palmer

Devin Hester can be a nice gimmick player on offense, get him a screen, swing him out of the backfield.

Starting WR, no.

Forte had alot less carries this year compared to his rookie year which is probably directly related to having Cutler as QB rather than Orton.

Their line got worse, they added a better QB.

I don't think Forte is much different of a player I think the things around him changed.

Trent Green was a good guy, so he gets a pass when people say he didn't lead the Chiefs to anything.

But Cutler's a shitbag, so he doesn't get that excuse, even though he's never thrown for less than 3500 yards as a starter, has never thrown more INT's than TD's and has a career 62% completion percentage.

And he's only a 3rd year starter. God forbid he hasn't won a playoff game in 3 years.

If Matt Cassel threw for 4500 yards, a 62.3% completion percentage, 25 TD's and 18 INT's - I'd cream my ****ing shorts.

But the guy that did that is a shitbag.

Nice job with the # of catches. I didn't expect that to be so close.

When I saw the Bears this year (appoximately 3-4 games), it just seemed like Forte was an after-thought. Obviously this perception was NOT accurate with respect to his role in the passing game.

Bingo.