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07 #19 Michael Griffin #20 Aaron Ross 06 #3 Vince Young #7 Michael Huff 05 #4 Cedric Benson #15 DJ 04 #7 Roy Williams #23 Marcuss Tubbs 03 #4 Mike Williams #5 Quentin Jammer 02 #2 Leonard Davis #19 Casey Hampton The busts obviously get a lot more frequent before 2006, but after that they seemed to have gotten their players a lot better equiped to transition to the NFL (except Colt who seems like a pussy with a weak arm) |
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A top 15 pick LBer should either be in the mold of DT, Pat Willis or Ray Lewis. DJ is none of those guys. |
Aaron Ross is ok when he actually plays, he missed 3 months with a hamstring pull. I wouldn't exactly consider Young and Huff a glowing example of good picks either..
I'm just very skeptical of their players, spread factors in too. |
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In your opinion, what does Berry bring to his position that Huff didn't coming out of college? I saw more of Huff that Berry, but I was equally impressed with both players. As I said, I am reluctant to draft Berry because of the lack of impact Huff has made from being such a high pick. If he ever shook lose from Oakland, he would be a great pickup IMHO. All Vince Young does is win games. |
Oakland plays a lot of cover 1, very few safeties succeed there because of it. Now on that note, Berry is more naturally gifted than Huff and has a better read on passes ball skills etc.
Huff spent time switching back and forth between CB and safety at Texas and was really a tweener, where Berry has never played corner. Berry is a better football player than Huff where Huff is a great athlete that hasn't really translated that to the field and got drafted to a team that doesn't get much from it's players. 1 year of Monte Kiffin is better coaching than Mike Huff has had in his college and pro career combined. Teams win games, by that note Kyle Orton is a winner. Vince Young is what he is, for a top 5 drafted QB he's pretty blah. |
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Teams win games, but some players jump off the screen and take over games and win them in the clutch, VY is that guy. If he is able to develop as a pocket passer of some effectiveness while maintaining his elusiveness and mobility, they can win championships. Teams will get eaten alive if he gets a couple deep threats to threaten defenses with, if he is able to spread that field and stretch the defense, he and Chris Johnson can eat man coverage alive and become very potent. It all depends on if he can take the pressure to me, but he has shown that he has that ability to take over a bad team and be the catalyst to them being a contender. time will tell |
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Goes to show that you never can tell, but take an educated guess. |
Andy Katzenmoyer seemed like he would be pretty good.
None of those guys had the indicators that McClain has though. |
can Ronnie Lott play shutdown corner?
can Dick Butkus play will backer? can Bruce Smith play a 5 tech? why? |
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He was beginning to play up to his draft pick when his career was ended by injury. McClain makes a lot of plays and has good "game" speed. He is the one and only pick that will keep Chiefsplanet from melting down. |
I was just as impressed with his moves pre snap as I was his play after it. I saw little to no false steps and no missed tackles. His arms are freakish long so he should always be a sure tackler and should bat down a lot of passes. It is what was done presnap that was truly impressive. He looked like a defensive Peyton Manning out there with his making the calls and reading keys pre snap. He obviously makes every other defender on the defense better and will grow into a elite defender and leader in the NFL.
Plus, I would hate to see him go to Denver... |
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For all you draftubators, what are the thoughts around Thaddeus Gibson of OSU?
He's probably a lot more raw than most, but he was an absolute beast at OSU. I think he could make a really good 3-4 OLB. |
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