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Mecca 01-21-2010 08:45 PM

I fully think he could get a 1st round grade, I don't think he'd go in the top 10 because of his weight so he'd probably end up going in the teens or 20's to a good team looking for a QB.

DeezNutz 01-21-2010 08:53 PM

That would probably be the ideal situation for him. Get going on an NFL weight-training program, add muscle. No pressure to step in too soon.

KJROD20 01-22-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6467048)
If we're picking top 10 next year we better be picking AJ Green or Julio Jones.

As good as Green is, I think Michael Floyd is the best of the potential 2011 guys. Unfortunately I don't think he'll put up the numbers he was putting up in '09 in '10, due to a new system, new QB, etc.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6467327)
Ideally, the Chiefs have the following run of picks (IMO)

2010: Berry
2011: Jones, Green, Floyd
2012: Gabbert

And FWIW, I'd probably take Tony Pike or Jevan Snead over Colt McCoy.

Gabbert over possibly Matt Barkley?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-22-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KJROD20 (Post 6468814)
Gabbert over possibly Matt Barkley?

Unquestionably

AustinChief 01-26-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6467058)
btw, if Albert doesn't improve significantly (meaning, play like he did the last couple of games) then I have no problem picking an OT with our first... I'd really like to see if Nate Solder keeps improving and if his frame can handle anymore weight (6'9" and 305 is a bit light for me)

Bumpity bump... I am still liking Solder but he is still way too light for me... obviously, we have a ton of holes to fill and NT, WR seem a bigger priority to me... but I wouldn't cry one bit if we took Solder

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-26-2011 10:08 PM

Nate Solder?? That guy got his cock pulled through his ass almost every game I saw him play.

AustinChief 01-26-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7385767)
Nate Solder?? That guy got his cock pulled through his ass almost every game I saw him play.

REALLY? I have only seen 3 or 4 of his games this year and he looked great. I'll watch him more closely at the Senior Bowl and reserve judgement.

Want to bet whether he goes in the first round or not? Currently I have him rated right around the 10-20 range, so he fits our pick pretty well. We need Oline help and I don't see any Centers being worth our 1st round pick.

I'd prefer we get NT and WR taken care of first and then get a center or guard (like Cannon) in the 2nd or 3rd... but OT in the first wouldn't kill me.

I've been bitching about our line since midseason... I firmly believe that our offense isn't going anywhere without serious upgrades to the line.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-26-2011 10:33 PM

Oh, I think he'll go in the first round, I just think that he's a soft player who can get pushed around very easily.

He got absolutely destroyed against Missouri in a game that Aldon Smith missed this year, and the year before

Here's his tape from Missouri in 2009. Dude gets the piss beaten out of him over and over again.

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AustinChief 01-26-2011 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7385896)
Oh, I think he'll go in the first round, I just think that he's a soft player who can get pushed around very easily.

He got absolutely destroyed against Missouri in a game that Aldon Smith missed this year, and the year before

Here's his tape from Missouri in 2009. Dude gets the piss beaten out of him over and over again.

Dude, if THIS is what you are going off from, you aren't giving him a fair shake or you don't judge OT talent very well... This is by far not his best performance but he definitely didn't get the piss beaten out of him.

I'll wait until I have seen more film, but my initial reaction is that he will be a solid pro and could be a GREAT pro if he adds more weight and gets decent coaching.

DTLB58 01-26-2011 11:18 PM

Just a tidbit on Mayock, I was watching practice today on NFLN and they were listening in to the huddle and Mayock is doing play by play acting all that like he knows what play they are calling, he says okay, here is a boot, QB is either gonna run or throw to the guy in the flat or someone dragging across the backside and lo and behold it was a freaking bomb down the right sideline!

I laughed my ass off and muted the TV for the rest of the practice. :D

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-27-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7386004)
Dude, if THIS is what you are going off from, you aren't giving him a fair shake or you don't judge OT talent very well... This is by far not his best performance but he definitely didn't get the piss beaten out of him.

I'll wait until I have seen more film, but my initial reaction is that he will be a solid pro and could be a GREAT pro if he adds more weight and gets decent coaching.

He's a height/weight project, IMO.

That isn't the entirety of my experience in watching him, it's just an example.

I think he'll really struggle against bullrushers at the next level

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-27-2011 12:12 AM

Here he is against Cameron Jordan (at times):

It's some of the most embarrassing tape you'll ever see.

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AustinChief 01-27-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7386200)
He's a height/weight project, IMO.

That isn't the entirety of my experience in watching him, it's just an example.

I think he'll really struggle against bullrushers at the next level

I agree with this unless he can bulk up.

AustinChief 01-27-2011 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7386214)
Here he is against Cameron Jordan (at times):

It's some of the most embarrassing tape you'll ever see.

um,, nope, I saw TWICE in the 2nd clip where he was beat (badly) and I saw quite a few really good plays...

Are we watching the same guy? #78 the LEFT TACKLE?

I don't think you are giving him a fair eval at all.

BTW I HATE CU with a passion, so this isn't a homer pick by me...

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-27-2011 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 7386325)
um,, nope, I saw TWICE in the 2nd clip where he was beat (badly) and I saw quite a few really good plays...

Are we watching the same guy? #78 the LEFT TACKLE?

I don't think you are giving him a fair eval at all.

BTW I HATE CU with a passion, so this isn't a homer pick by me...

He gets destroyed as much as humanly possible at :58 and 1:12, which led to a sack-fumble and an interception. At 1:12, he gives up a QB hit, commits a penalty, and causes an interception.

He gets his ass whipped on a short drop at 2:00

He gives up another sack at 2:45

He gets blown up by a spin move at 3:20, but the entire pocket collapsed, so the QB got out before he could give up another pressure or sack

He lets the RE get in across his face because he can't push him off the line in run blocking, and that leads to a play getting stoned at 3:40

He lets another guy get across his face at 4:05

He gets beat around the edge yet again on the final play, but the QB got the ball out quick.

"Some good plays, some bad" is just wantonly dishonest.


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