So why is it that the one year that Mike Brown isn't injury prone is the year that he is sucking it up for the Chiefs? This franchise is cursed. :grr:

Valid point.

The worthless asswipe could've at least blown out his knee again or something.

Oh Jesus Christ please watch football more. Not only do you think Albert doesn't have it but you think Carr doesn't have it either?

Are you serious? You are saying that KC doesn't have a dire need for a safety because Mike Brown was an all pro when Dick Vermeil was coaching the Chiefs? That's full reerun.

Carr has gotten better, but he still struggles with his hip turn and loses a lot of his speed when receivers go on post routes against him.

He's okay I guess.

And I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that Albert has struggled at left tackle for two years now. It's not just me who has come to this conclusion.

No, I'm saying that a safety needs help from the people up front to create situations where mistakes are being made by the quarterback, running back, receivers, etc. that allow the safety to make plays versus forcing them to be the "last line of defense" guy that Brown and McGraw were last season.

Im saying that Brown has been a playmaker for his whole career, but having an excellent defense in front of him allowed him to make those plays. On the Chiefs, there wasn't much happening that allowed him to do that.

As I stated, you could put Paul Krause and Ronnie Lott on this team and it wouldn't drastically help matters. That's why I'm saying that the pick of Berry is a bit frivolous at this point for the Chiefs. (Although he would help in nickel alignment situations.)

OK you guess? He was basically equivalent to Flowers last year (minus the ball skills). Who thinks Albert struggled his rookie year?

He was too fat/Haley

Albert also improved markedly as the season progressed last season.

The kid is a LT in this league.

I've had this discussion several times already, but we ran the ball as anyone in football in the 2nd half last year and got sacked singificantly less often as the season went on (even with Cassel's ball-clamping ways back there). The line was pretty decent as the season went on.

I've said it before, outside of the CBs and Charles, the O-line was our most effective unit by the end of the season.

No, no, no.

Albert has been shit since the day he was born.

Just ask sackofshit.

Agreed.........even though he let a throw go right through his hands in a drill, promting Deion Sanders to give him some business. I hope we pick Berry, though. Can get OL help in the lower rounds.

Not in a 3-4, it's not. I agree that safeties are more likely to get picked off when the front 3 doesn't do their job, or when they're covering the asses for our LBs.

But Safeties have become one of the more vital piece to a 3-4, because it gives you so much range for the kinds of looks you can give an opposing defense. Polamalu can blow up screens, play as a corner, or rush the QB, in addition to being big/tough enough to be big in run support. There are a lot of looks Lebeau can't give when Polamalu isn't in the game--he's that important.

O-linemen, 3-4 D-linemen, Inside Linebackers are all paid to do their jobs well, but they're not going to be playmakers that completely change the way you play defense/offense. A Safety has the potential to turn your defense from vanilla to innovative. One player is that important.

Shutup dick, you don't know what you're talking.....

Wait...what did you say?

If I agree with you, then I'm clearly mistaken. I generally find you to be the football equivalent of a CoMo prognostication.

Good thing I'm pro-Clausen or I'd be really concerned about backing Berry.

The Patriots won the 2004 superbowl (that was Wilforks rookie year and Romeos last in NE FTR) He started the second half of the season and did so start in the superbowl.

http://www.patriots.com/search/index...=11016&pcid=41

Warren was there for the 2003 and 2004 superbowl. (thats 2 buddy, though I dont think he started in his first superbowl I know he started in the 2004 one from the article I linked)

You cant deflect that a lot of the best teams in the NFL spend a lot of first rounders on their DL and more specifically their run defense.

2005 was his last year as a playmaker. He's slow as shit because of age and a history of major injuries.

But lets assume you are correct, that DB's will benefit from an improved DL. So what? What does that have to do with KC drafting Berry? KC has two top 5 picks invested in the DL. There isn't a NT ranked as high as Berry, nor is there a pass rushing OLB ranked that high. Why not go with the safety?