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philfree 04-18-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6683821)
I swear, if some of you guys were in Green Bay in 1959 you would've run Vince Lombardi out of town. You can't judge guys based on one year of history.



Sure they can it's The Chiefs Planet Way!


PhilFree:arrow:

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-18-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6683821)
I swear, if some of you guys were in Green Bay in 1959 you would've run Vince Lombardi out of town. You can't judge guys based on one year of history.

Peyton Manning sucked his first year and never recovered !

milkman 04-18-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6683821)
I swear, if some of you guys were in Green Bay in 1959 you would've run Vince Lombardi out of town. You can't judge guys based on one year of history.

Frankly, I don't know what Lombardi did in his first season as the Packers GM, but I do know that you build teams today far differently than you did in '59.

If Lombardi built the lines first and then went after playmaker positions later, then in '59, he was doing it the right way for that time.

Today's NFL is far different.

OnTheWarpath15 04-18-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6683826)
People, calm down.

This is an evaluation draft.

LMAO

chiefzilla1501 04-18-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6683824)
I'm all for it. I could care less to filter out a bunch of threads that have nothing to do with football. Right now the first page threads in the lounge that aren't football related total total around 18 to 20. Football related 5 or 6.



I'm all for Dan Williams if we traded down with San Fran and I knew he would be there at 13.

I'd rather wait until the second round and draft a Nose Tackle like Cody or Cam Thomas, who probably are not a whole lot worse or different than Williams.

DaneMcCloud 04-18-2010 11:59 AM

Well, I guess if the Chiefs are going to trade down, this is the year to do it.

But they'd better get value and not have to give up any of their current picks to do so.

And yes, there is a big difference between Berry & Thomas: Thomas has only played two years, is two inches shorter and his arms are shorter.

I hope they stay at #5 and pick an elite talent but apparently, they don't think that's necessary.

:facepalm:

DeezNutz 04-18-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6683832)
LMAO

Seriously, it sounds really ****ing stupid.

But if we can waste an entire calendar year and many find it perfectly acceptable, I see no problem in labeling this a throw-away draft.

What should we expect?!!!? Results?

OnTheWarpath15 04-18-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6683839)
Seriously, it sounds really ****ing stupid.

But if we can waste an entire calendar year and many find it perfectly acceptable, I see no problem in labeling this a throw-away draft.

What should we expect?!!!? Results?

Whoa, whoa there. Results?

Who the **** are you to expect results 14 months into a new regime?

It's a process.

DaneMcCloud 04-18-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6683804)
OMG :banghead:


i just don't know what the hell you guys see in Mays.


I think Mays would be a great pick.

In the third round.

:D

I'm not a fan. He's a physical specimen but has a long way to go before he's anything special as a football player.

DeezNutz 04-18-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6683841)
Whoa, whoa there. Results?

Who the **** are you to expect results 14 months into a new regime?

It's a process.

If Pioli wants to trade down, I completely trust his judgment that none of the remaining player are worthy of the #5 overall selection. /Tyson Jackson's mom

OnTheWarpath15 04-18-2010 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6683845)
If Pioli wants to trade down, I completely trust his judgment that none of the remaining player are worthy of the #5 overall selection. /Tyson Jackson's mom

Oh, shit just got real.

LMAO

Mr. Laz 04-18-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6683812)
I guess I should say too that a trade down is fine if we absolutely sodomize some team that has a crush on a player. I recognize that there are some trades that simply can't be turned down because the odds are too good that you'll win. It's fine to go fishing for that.

this

a 2nd rounder to move from 5 to 7 from cleveland

then

both of the 49ers 1st rounders to move from 7 to 13

we end up with

1st round
#13
#17

2nd round
#36
#38
#50

3rd round
#68

4th round
102

5th round
136
142 (from MIA)
144 (from CAR)


it's not my first choice but we could do alot of damage with it

going by Walter's mock we could have

13 - CB Joe Haden
17 - OT anthony Davis
36 - OLB Jerry Hughes
38 - NT Terrance Cody
50 - WR Damien Williams
68 - S Morgan Burnett
102 - C Matt Tennant
136 - ILB Sean Lee
142 - WR/KR Jordan Shipley
144 - DE/OLB O'brien Schofield




chiefzilla1501 04-18-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6683831)
Frankly, I don't know what Lombardi did in his first season as the Packers GM, but I do know that you build teams today far differently than you did in '59.

If Lombardi built the lines first and then went after playmaker positions later, then in '59, he was doing it the right way for that time.

Today's NFL is far different.

What would you think if the Chiefs traded down and drafted an OLB? Because that's one scenario that I could be okay with, if they think a guy like Graham or Kindle or Hughes has potential to be a playmaker at that position. Because that's a position that I think is hugely important and grades just about right in the mid first round.

Mr. Laz 04-18-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6683843)
I think Mays would be a great pick.

In the third round.

:D

I'm not a fan. He's a physical specimen but has a long way to go before he's anything special as a football player.

agreed

Hammock Parties 04-18-2010 12:11 PM

I don't know what this means for certain, but it would seem to indicate absolutely zero interest in Jimmy Clausen.

Sad.


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