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Valiant 06-17-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Consistent1 (Post 6826792)
I agree on the Russell deal,but you can't compare CJ to that.If anything that supports the idea that if guys come in and play with pride and work hard,they should get an upgrade.The Russell type deals are what need to go.That shit hurts the quality of the league.Even Revis deserves pretty good treatment.The players can go overboard wanting,but sometimes it is only right.Like people have said,the teams will cut the shit out of guys and not think twice.
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Then the players union needs to abolish the current rookie salary system.. You cannot get it both ways..

If you outplay your contract and want a new better contract then they better also allow a team to get money back when you LarryJOhnson it or Russel the contract..

wasi 06-17-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 6827458)
Then the players union needs to abolish the current rookie salary system.. You cannot get it both ways..

If you outplay your contract and want a new better contract then they better also allow a team to get money back when you LarryJOhnson it or Russel the contract..

I agree with this statement in principle.

However, I think the problem is how you define this in the agreements. On the one hand, a player can "Russell" a contract. On the other hand, whats to say a team or coach can't purposely sabotage a players performance - through scheme or play calling - to get give the perception that the performance is not up standards laid out in the contract.

Consistent1 06-17-2010 12:36 PM

I agree that some players ruin it.Hell,I would like to see the Skins get some money back and toss Haynesworth out with the trash.I just see CJ seems to want to perform.When he started running his mouth about 2k, I thought he was high.He did it though.With the numbers he has put up in such a short time,that says to me that he wants to grab a spot in history.We shall see on that,but it's not like he is slamming into the line for 3 yds a carry.Also a damn fine receiver.He sure doesn't seem like he will ever dog it,but I could be wrong.
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Demonpenz 06-17-2010 12:38 PM

he can't live on 500 grand he has bigger issues.

Arrowhead Nation 06-17-2010 12:44 PM

Just throwing this out there, but I bet most defending the team are white and most defending the player are of another race. Sound about right?

Consistent1 06-17-2010 12:56 PM

I'm white.Hootie is white I know.Don't think that has anything to do with it.
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Brock 06-17-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrowhead Nation (Post 6827555)
Just throwing this out there, but I bet most defending the team are white and most defending the player are of another race. Sound about right?

The fuck?

Hootie 06-17-2010 02:01 PM

we get the fact that any of us could, and would gladly, live on 550K...

but he's arguably the best player in the entire NFL that generates many billions of dollars in revenue every year...

he's the product that makes the money...he's a MAIN EVENT...

and he's totally right...if he was a stiff they would have cut his ass and he wouldn't have made that $12M...

but now...he has totally, 100% outperformed that contract and he deserves to be paid a new one...right ****ing now...that makes him among the highest paid RB's in the NFL...

The NFL has such a flawed system and there is really no way to fix it...it sucks. The injury element really makes things a lot trickier than the NBA or the MLB...

Ebolapox 06-17-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrowhead Nation (Post 6827555)
Just throwing this out there, but I bet most defending the team are white and most defending the player are of another race. Sound about right?

yeah, I'm an african jew.

FAX 06-17-2010 02:06 PM

I don't blame him one bit. You can't put a value on a decent Johnson.

FAX

-King- 06-17-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrowhead Nation (Post 6827555)
Just throwing this out there, but I bet most defending the team are white and most defending the player are of another race. Sound about right?

Just throwing this out there, but I bet you're a ****ing dumbass. Sound about right?
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chiefzilla1501 06-17-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6826656)
Shoot. Give me $550,000 and I'll play anything, anytime, anywhere. Players need to start understanding it's a privilege to play in the NFL, and they wouldn't get payed squat if it wasn't for the fans that watch them perform.

It's far too much of a "me" league. His excuse that he won't honor his contract because NFL teams don't honor the players contracts is B.S. As a player, you are a product of the team, and all contracts are able to be broken at any time by the NFL team that you have a deal with. You as a player, has to understand you're not bigger than the team.

Disagree.

MLB and NBA guarantee contracts. Therefore, you never, ever, ever see a holdout.

Because NFL teams wanted the luxury of being able to cut a player and not pay a player for the rest of his contract, they have to deal with the fact that players may hold out.

It's pretty simple. You want to avoid holdouts? Guarantee the entire contract. If you don't guarantee the contract, you don't have any ****ing right to bitch when a player doesn't "honor" it.

Valiant 06-17-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wasi (Post 6827502)
I agree with this statement in principle.

However, I think the problem is how you define this in the agreements. On the one hand, a player can "Russell" a contract. On the other hand, whats to say a team or coach can't purposely sabotage a players performance - through scheme or play calling - to get give the perception that the performance is not up standards laid out in the contract.

To a point you are correct, then the NFLPA can go after them for it.. But we need to get of this pay slot system..

He deserves more money, but unfortunately them is the brakes.. The Titans will eventually cave to fan pressure.. But I were the owners I would be publically showing they are just following the rules already agreed upon by the NFLPA.. If they do not like they can agree to change the system to where they do not have to pay out astronomical contracts to rookies and therefore when you do get a gem like CJohnson you can pay him once he outplays his contract..

RNR 06-17-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 6828044)
To a point you are correct, then the NFLPA can go after them for it.. But we need to get of this pay slot system..

He deserves more money, but unfortunately them is the brakes.. The Titans will eventually cave to fan pressure.. But I were the owners I would be publically showing they are just following the rules already agreed upon by the NFLPA.. If they do not like they can agree to change the system to where they do not have to pay out astronomical contracts to rookies and therefore when you do get a gem like CJohnson you can pay him once he outplays his contract..

This is way past due~

xztop12 06-17-2010 05:51 PM

he was drafted in the first round how the hell is he making 500k?


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