It was the defender's good, IMO.

Spoken like a guy who must have been too young to really pay attention to the Grbac-era Chiefs. Grbac had physical talent, but not looking lost was not one of his attributes. Cassel is 10x the QB that Grbac was when it comes to the mental aspects of the game.

I'm not even sure what makes you say that Cassel looked lost in this Buffalo game. Maybe you can gif him up and show me what you mean later in the week in your gif'ed up thread.

Grbac was king of the deer in the headlights look.
He lost a playoff game in Arrowhead vs. Denver, partly because he botched a two minute drill (final play was a lame pass somewhere in the same area code as Lake Dawson). He ran out of time waiting for plays to come in from the OC. He had no ability to think on his feet, he could only do what the OC told him to do, and if a play was late getting into the huddle, he was clueless. I see some of that in Cassel. He's robotic, doesn't have any Favre improv in him at all.

On the plus side, he has thrown more than 100 passes with no picks, and that's a good thing. Also, he's only been a starter for about a two years (counting New England) and he's still learning on the job. He does seem pretty studious on the sideline, and I agree that he usually goes down swinging when he does go down.

I totally agree with this post. All the hatred for Cassel I try to understand, but looking lost, I was scratching my head about.

I can't believe I'm going to say this but, in defense of Grbac in that playoff game, I distinctly remember one or two short passes where (I think it was Rathman?) could have gotten out of bounds, but for some bizarre reason tried for 2 more yards and was tackled in bound keeping the clock rolling. Grbac's final pass to Dawson was ugly though.

But, boy did he really try to toss a pick yesterday! It was right into the hands of the defender. Cassel lucked out on that one.

It was the smart call. Didn't like the play they called for it but especially with the wind it wasn't a gimme FG.

Yesterday's game was painful to watch. I've said before that I'll never bitch about a coach with balls, but at this point I can't tell if Haley's more like Custer or Wile E. Coyote. Time to get back on your meds, Todd. Jesus. And Weis.... well, I haven't made my contempt for this overrated turd a secret, and it continues to grow week by week. I think we could run 400 yards and this assclown will still call a pass play on a critical 3rd and short. ****. And Cassel? No need to go there at this point. And the secondary is still a work in progress, surrendering far too many first downs on 3rd and long.

I'm trying to look on this mess as simply getting caught looking ahead to Oakland next week. Really, I am. We lost one game (Houston) that we should have won, and now we've won a game that we abso-****ing-lutely should have lost, which I guess makes us even. A win is a win. A win is a win. A win is a win. A win is a win....

But the coaching needs to improve. Dramatically. Our worst enemies right now are prowling our own sideline and sitting in our own booth.

Here's what the Buffalo News is saying:

Bills Can't Escape the Jaws of Defeat
by Mark Gaughan - Buffalo News

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bi...icle237532.ece

KANSAS CITY -- The script was completely different from any other game the Buffalo Bills have played this season.

The ending -- well, you know the story.

The Bills were left to lament how they repeatedly let victory slip through their fingers after their 13-10 overtime loss to the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday.

"It hurts," Bills coach Chan Gailey said. "You can't explain it. It makes you sick in your gut. I feel bad for our guys, because they're trying, they're playing hard. We're just not getting it done. I've got to teach us to get over the hump."

"I'm kind of at a loss for words," receiver Stevie Johnson said. "It seemed like we put together a good game as a team. We had opportunities but we couldn't come out with a win. Here we go again."

"It seems like almost every week, it's like, man if we could have made just one play," said guard Eric Wood. "If we could have made this play or that play, we'd have won that game."

The Bills fell to 0-7 for the first time since 1984. It's the first time in their history they have lost back-to-back overtime games.

Last week's 37-34 loss at Baltimore was a big-play fiesta, with eight touchdowns scored. This one was about methodical offense, with just two touchdowns.

The Chiefs were the better team on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Kansas City outrushed Buffalo, 274-137, and outgained the Bills overall, 414-328. The Bills called 56 passes and 28 runs.

The Bills still could have won if any one of the following plays went differently:

* Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick threw an interception at the Kansas City 27-yard line with 25 seconds left in regulation. The Bills needed only about 10 more yards to get in good position for a field goal.

* Fitzpatrick overthrew an open C.J. Spiller in the end zone with 8:11 left in overtime.

* Bills kicker Rian Lindell missed a 53-yard field-goal try with 7:19 left in overtime. Lindell had made the 53-yard try just moments before, but Kansas City had called timeout to stop the clock just before the ball was snapped.

The Bills' offense, which rolled up 514 yards last week in Baltimore, managed just 58 yards in the first half against the Chiefs. But the Bills found a rhythm in the third quarter, taking the second-half kickoff and holding the ball for 15 plays en route to a Lindell field goal that pulled them within 7-3.

"We adjusted at halftime," Fitzpatrick said. "We knew coming in they were a bend-but-don't-break type of defense, and they did a good job today in terms of that. It seemed the whole first half we were stuck in our end. They weren't going to allow us to get any big plays. On third down they played a lot more zone than man [to man]."

The Bills held the ball for 19:01 of the second 30 minutes.

"That was how we went into the ball game, understanding that we were going to have to dink and dunk our way down the field and treat 4-yard and 5-yard passes as run game because they're very physical tight end to tight end," Gailey said.

A 15-play, 83-yard march tied the game. Fitzpatrick hit 8 of 10 passes on the drive and capped it with a 4-yard scoring pass to Johnson on fourth and goal. It was a slant pass, and Johnson dove over the goal line just before he could be tackled.

"That's something we worked on probably one time throughout the week, but Coach [Gailey] called it," Johnson said. "He said, they'll play off, you'll come under and you'll have to bull rush in there. It was exactly how Coach said it. It was just execution."

The Bills had the ball back just 49 seconds later thanks to a good defensive stand (and questionable play-calling by the Chiefs). Fitzpatrick had the Bills at the Chiefs' 41 when his throw for Lee Evans sailed way over the receiver's head and was picked off by the Chiefs' Eric Berry. Fitzpatrick said it slipped.

"I catch the gun snap and pretty much as I catch it, throw it to Lee real quick," Fitzpatrick said. "It just squirted out."

Midway through overtime, Fitzpatrick moved the Bills from their own 10 to the Chiefs' 37. The Bills caught the Chiefs in a blitz with Spiller down the right sideline, but the pass sailed over his head.

"We got C.J. manned up with the linebacker on the outside and missed him in the end zone," Fitzpatrick said. "It was a good matchup. I let the ball go. I thought it was going to be perfect, and it just ended up being long."

"I don't know how many times in a row we've hit that in practice," Gailey said. "We didn't hit it today. It hurts."

The Bills called two more passes but only got to the 34, which put Lindell in a long-range position.

"We had a run called on one of them but we checked out of it because of the defense they gave us, which we've been doing and been fairly successful at," Gailey said of the two plays before the kick. "In hindsight, yeah, I wish we'd have run it a couple times there, but you make calls in games you wish you had back."

Kansas City's winning drive started with 1:13 left and went 53 yards to the Buffalo 16. Ryan Succop's 35-yard kick as time expired improved the Chiefs to 5-2.

"I thought we had it for sure," said linebacker Paul Posluszny. "I thought it was our game for sure. We fought hard. I felt we made the plays we needed to make at times. But we need to learn to win."

We dodged a shit ton of bullets yesterday...

That's the shit with Cassel. Dude was a ****ing worthless bum ALL ****ING GAME and then put together a beautiful drive with his back to the wall. That drive is precisely what he needs to do every drive. Weis gave him ample opportunity to make plays in the game and he stalled drives. I don't understand how he can be so horrible all game and then put together a drive like that.
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Give any NFL starting QB six or seven cracks at it, and eventually they'll all put together some kind of coherent drive.

It was a very catchable ball. After the game somebody said the defender hooked one of Bowe's arms, and it should have been a DPI. Anybody notice that?

No, I thought Bowe was open, but the pass was underthrown, Bowe had to adjust to the ball, DB hit Bowe about the same time the ball got there (maybe a tiny bit early but not enough for DPI) and pinned Bowe's arm so he couldn't grab the ball. It was a good defensive play. No TD because (as usual) Cassel couldn't hit a receiver in stride.

In general, I'd say: don't sweat this game. The Bills have now gone on the road and played ridiculously tough against the Dolphins, Patriots, Ravens, and Chiefs (taking the last two to OT). Those teams are 6-1, 5-2, 5-2, and 4-3; taking out the Bills game, they're still a cumulative 16-8. The Bills may be 0-7 but could easily be 3-4 or 4-3.

Look on the bright side: your D held its own, your running game dominated, and even Cassel couldn't **** it up in the end (although he tried his best).

(EDIT: Fins game was in Buffalo. Still, they only lost 15-10.)