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milkman 01-24-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7381296)
Not running with Shonn Greene was the first mistake.

Not trying to punch it in on the two previous plays was the first mistake.

aturnis 01-24-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7381536)
Not trying to punch it in on the two previous plays was the first mistake.

Especially since both Albert and Richardson are both good run blockers. Which Saccopoo apparently does not see. The problem with our running game is right up the gut. Right where Saccopoo says our best o-lineman plays.

Saccopoo 01-25-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7381650)
Especially since both Albert and Richardson are both good run blockers. Which Saccopoo apparently does not see. The problem with our running game is right up the gut. Right where Saccopoo says our best o-lineman plays.

No they are not. Albert has no balance, doesn't move his feet well, lunges and tries to drive block in the open field/second level and ends up on the ground constantly. It's ****ing embarrassing more than anything. Saying Richardson is good at anything is being overly generous, and both he and Albert got a ton of help from Moeaki and Bowe, who are the teams best blockers. (Tragically, they are also our best receivers. When they are running patterns, our blocking ability is virtually non-existent.)

Our "up the gut" game doesn't exist. Wiegmann will get overwhelmed when forced to take on two defenders such as a center will be asked to do in short yardage situations. Lilja was released by the Colts because he didn't have the strength to hold the point of attack, particularly in the red zone against the Saints. Both are very good players, but they are not short yardage guys. Our backs and fullbacks are not good blockers. And Waters, while crafty with some power still in his game, has never had the most nimble of feet.

The team is built for an east-west game (something that Albert isn't good at anyway as he was drafted as a phone booth guard out of college that had very good pro-days and Combine and some people were projecting him to the tackle position based on those two things - such as Herm and Carl). Haley uses a zone blocking scheme that requires quicker, smarter, more agile linemen. It's why he wants his guys light and quick. The tackles need to be able to get into pulls quickly and get into the second level and have the ability to take on linebackers and backs when they are there.

However, as I've stated before, it also requires a quick thinking quarterback with some degree of mobility.

I know a shit ton of you people think that we can just have our pick of the free agent litter and get all of these high quality 338 lbs. smash mouth offensive linemen without drafting them, but I'm here to tell you that it's not going to work that way.

They actually pulled Richardson from a game because he was ****ing up so bad. That he showed some "fire" about it means zilch. The guy sucks. And Albert was consistently owned all season long. Whether you don't think that a team needs to spend a high draft pick on an offensive line player, the vast majority of teams actually do place an emphasis on getting quality guys at that position, particularly at the tackle spots.

We have a young and talented defense. A true nose tackle would be nice.

We need an offense to match. We've got some nice play makers (Charles, Bowe, Moeaki), but we need to build the line to get the most out of it, to give those guys the capability of making the plays that they are capable of making. (And I'm not going to bitch if the Chiefs pick up a quarterback in this draft either.)

Rams Fan 01-25-2011 05:20 PM

Saying this about the Rams pick, they won't take a CB. They need a DE or DL more than they need a CB. Bartell and Fletcher are 2 decent CBs and Murphy could be a solid player.

Bewbies 01-25-2011 06:24 PM

Am I watching the same team that Sac is? He seems to describe the o-line differently than I would...

Hammock Parties 01-25-2011 08:51 PM

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The team is built for an east-west game (something that Albert isn't good at anyway as he was drafted as a phone booth guard out of college
Albert was drafted because he was great at pulling and blocking in space. I can't believe you would say this. You're talking like he's Leonard Davis.

Bewbies 01-25-2011 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7383438)
Albert was drafted because he was great at pulling and blocking in space. I can't believe you would say this. You're talking like he's Leonard Davis.

The pre-draft videos of him blocking in space reminded most people of Willie Roaf.

Except Sac, who was probably pissed we didn't move up to draft Jake Long at the time.

milkman 01-25-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7383513)
The pre-draft videos of him blocking in space reminded most people of Willie Roaf.

Except Sac, who was probably pissed we didn't move up to draft Jake Long at the time.

Wait!

Is Sac a findthedr mult?

Saccopoo 01-26-2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7383438)
Albert was drafted because he was great at pulling and blocking in space. I can't believe you would say this. You're talking like he's Leonard Davis.

Leonard Davis is better then Albert.

And add to it that he played next to D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Eugene Monroe at the college level in the ACC. He's the offensive equivalent of Ryan Sims. He was the guy playing next to "THE" guy. It was a blown pick.

The guy looks like a lamed cow out there on the field. He's consistently off balance, lunges rather than engages defenders and ends up floundering on the grass as a result. Absolutely horrible.

Hammock Parties 01-26-2011 12:50 PM

The dude is the best run block on our offense, without question. He constantly takes two guys out on the same play when we run off tackle.

He struggles against top-end pass rushers, but he improved in that regard compared to last year.

The dude's arrow is pointing up. He is not Ryan Sims.

You are absurd sometimes.

El Jefe 01-26-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7384664)
Leonard Davis is better then Albert.

And add to it that he played next to D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Eugene Monroe at the college level in the ACC. He's the offensive equivalent of Ryan Sims. He was the guy playing next to "THE" guy. It was a blown pick.

The guy looks like a lamed cow out there on the field. He's consistently off balance, lunges rather than engages defenders and ends up floundering on the grass as a result. Absolutely horrible.

Wow, this is one of the most hilarious posts I have read in a while, your hatred for Albert is seething out of everyone of your posts.

Saccopoo 01-26-2011 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7384669)
The dude is the best run block on our offense, without question. He constantly takes two guys out on the same play when we run off tackle.

He struggles against top-end pass rushers, but he improved in that regard compared to last year.

The dude's arrow is pointing up. He is not Ryan Sims.

You are absurd sometimes.

Sims is still in the league. He's just not the all-world guy that he was made out to be in college because he was the beneficiary of playing next to a legitimate stud.

If you think Albert is a decent run blocker then move his ass over to the right side or, better yet, put him in at left guard which is his natural position (or at least it was in college). The guy has no business being the blind side protector at this level.

Like I said before, I think he's got the skills to be a very good guard in the league, especially in Haley's system. However, he's not an NFL level left tackle.

Chiefnj2 01-26-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7384664)
Leonard Davis is better then Albert.

And add to it that he played next to D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Eugene Monroe at the college level in the ACC. He's the offensive equivalent of Ryan Sims. He was the guy playing next to "THE" guy. It was a blown pick.

The guy looks like a lamed cow out there on the field. He's consistently off balance, lunges rather than engages defenders and ends up floundering on the grass as a result. Absolutely horrible.

DBrick gave up 28 sacks his first three years in the NFL. Albert has given up 24.

the Talking Can 01-26-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7382969)
And Albert was consistently owned all season long.


absolute ****ing nonsense

The Franchise 01-26-2011 03:16 PM

Sac is still ****ing butthurt that we took Berry and not Okung.


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