They've thought that before.

I just don't see how rookie salary cap can't be part of the new CBA. Redistribute those funds into some sort of veteran pay plan where performance is awarded instead of potential. IMHO

A gentlemen's disagreement it is then...

Yep. Sam Bradford is going to be a great pro, but 50 million guaranteed to a guy that has never played a down can be debated as to being "excessive". Let him work a rookie three year deal so he can earn the lottery contract (although I'm sure Alex Smith would be against that line of thinking).

It (in a way) was part of the old one.

No way in hell the NFLPA goes for that...

I must be missing something. It seems to me that the veterans outnumber the rooks. If a fixed salary amount were going to be distributed among teammates, I would think that the veterans would prefer to cut back on these enormous rookie salaries in favor of higher veteran pay.

Free agency pretty much took care of the "performance" issue, didn't it? I mean, if you perform at a high level, FA allows you opportunities for higher compensation, no?

What am I missing?

FAX

I've basically come to the point where I hope the Owners tell the players to take what they're offering or go play in Canada.

I'm pissed because they are complaining about their piece of the revenues when I just can't rationalize why they are entitled to any at all. They make a shit ton of money to play a game and they are still bitching. Lastly the players exorbitant salaries are a major contributor to sky high ticket prices.

Yes the owners are greedy bastards and I don't' think they should be able to screw over the players, but from a business sense I support them more than the athletes. Yes the players are the "product", but without the owners they wouldn't have a game to play.

It could be that the NFLPA views rising rookie salaries as a driver for higher veteran salaries.

The stupidity on the part of the owners to pay huge $$$ for unproven commodities.

That reeruned signing bonus still pays in to union dues...

The average NFL salary is 900,000 dollars. It isn't an exorbitant salary unless you're talking about top tier QBs. Secondly, this viewpoint that "they play a game" keeps getting brought up. Yes, they "play a game", a dangerous game, a game that takes a significant number of years off their lives, and significantly affects the quality of those years they have left. They trade those years for money, and I don't understand why people think they should just take whatever line of bullshit the owners throw at them.

As opposed to a rookie cap with no redistribution of the funds? I'm not saying whether it is a qualified option, I'm just throwing out my opinion.
I also feel that the NFLPA isn't coming from as strong a place as some think. More owners than players are prepared to say "**** you, let's see how long you want to do this" IMHO

Agreed. They don't play a game. They perform a service which generates high revenue. Same as actors or top salesmen or anyone else who has a skill for which people are willing to pay.
OTOH the owners provide the venue without which their skills would be marketless. And those owners can replace players quicker than players can replace owners.
Which is why both sides need to get their stuff together and hammer out an agreement that keeps the golden goose laying.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_r...nnbin&hpt=Sbin


I thought this was funny. I'm guessing that the next words out of Jerry Richardson's mouth were, "They call roughing the passer if anyone gets within ten yards of you."

On another note, I'm surprised that Brees and Manning are at the negotiating table. I figured they'd have lawyers and agents there and no one else.

Panthers owner mocks Manning, Brees

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08:05 AM ET 02.14 | Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson may not be invited to dinner any time soon with two of the NFL's top quarterbacks. Richardson mocked quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Drew Brees during a Feb. 5 negotiating session with the NFL Players Association, says three league sources, a sign of disrespect that the union hopes solidifies its members in the pending labor battle with the NFL. "[Richardson] was extremely condescending to them, especially toward Peyton," a source said. ... Apparently, Richardson was particularly sarcastic when Manning started to talk about players' safety. At one point, Richardson evidently said, "What do you know about player safety?"

That rookie pay scale for 1st round picks is a tool to drive up player salaries. When the 1st round picks become the highest paid players at a position that drives up the amount of pay a franchise tagged player gets. Basically it increases the average of the the top five paid players at what ever position the specific player plays. And it happens every year. I don't see the players wanting to give that up.

The Owners are probably trying to distract the players with the percent totals so when they do budge they'll be able to slip the rookie pay scale through. Slight of hand!


PhilFree:arrow:

this would be the silver lining to a work stoppage. College football on sundays.