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whoman69 01-02-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8254685)
We are so ****ed. RAC is going to be a terrible head coach. A perfect example is this last game. Meaningless worthless game yet he won't start Stanzi, Powe or Hudson to give them some seasoning. When asked about it in the press conference he said I'm going with the players that got us here.

Thats all I need to hear. We need someone with some balls and some vision for blending in rooks and getting them some playing time.

I can understand that. He is coaching for his job. for him it was not a meaningless game. Lilja has played pretty well in the last couple of games and truthfully Weigman's record doesn't allow him to sit his final game on the bench.

whoman69 01-02-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8254952)
This.

All this "Clark is cheap" crap is nonsense.

Clark is cheap. In that light if you are Pioli doesn't it look better for you having saved the owner all that money? I can't see how the Chiefs staff could be one of the highest paid staffs in football with what was a HC on his first contract, an OC that was promoted from position coach. Crennel was probably well paid as a DC.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-02-2012 11:12 AM

adbrandtAndrew Brandt


Teams that left the most Cap room on the table in 2011: Jax, TB and KC. Just don't tell Del Rio, Raheem and Haley that:)

Mr. Laz 01-02-2012 11:40 AM

Marty II, Marty II, Marty II!!!

FringeNC 01-02-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8255181)
Clark is cheap. In that light if you are Pioli doesn't it look better for you having saved the owner all that money? I can't see how the Chiefs staff could be one of the highest paid staffs in football with what was a HC on his first contract, an OC that was promoted from position coach. Crennel was probably well paid as a DC.

Too bad he blew 40 million on 3 years of Cassel...

htismaqe 01-02-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8255059)
I remember when Bill Parcells left New England, and they hired "Pom Pom" Pete Carroll. The players talked about how great it would be to have a "players' coach". At the press conference, one of the Patriots defensive players had his arm around Carroll.

And I also remember last year's epic collapse by the Boston Red Sox, with players eating chicken and drinking beer in the dugout while the team had the biggest September collapse in MLB history under another "players' coach", Terry Francona. Just before the September slide, after a victory no less, Francona tried to grow some balls and had a meeting with the players where he said he didn't like things that were going on; they responded with the biggest choke job in baseball.

Now, this all does validate your point somewhat but, the thing is, we don't know why the Chiefs players want/like Romeo. Is it because he's a great coach? Is it because he's coming up with unique and victorious plays? Those are great reasons to like him, and keep him. But if it's because he "isn't as mean as Haley", then, yeah, this could be a bad thing.

That's just the thing. There's very little evidence to suggest it's anything OTHER than a reaction to Haley. It could be any number of things other thant that, but the evidence doesn't point there. They all talk about how he's a father figure and a teddy bear and blah blah blah.

johnny961 01-02-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8254665)
If the players want him THIS bad, there is NO WAY you hire him. None.

This story does not end well.

Just because a coach isn't a total prick doesn't necessarily mean that they can't motivate and lead a disciplined team. Dick Vermeil was known as a players coach yet the guys here at the time seemed to play hard for him. Vermeil had his own motivational style that worked for him. I'm not saying I think that hiring Crennel is a 100% certainty as far as success goes but IMO he has earned a shot at it anyway.

FloridaMan88 01-02-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8255195)
adbrandtAndrew Brandt


Teams that left the most Cap room on the table in 2011: Jax, TB and KC. Just don't tell Del Rio, Raheem and Haley that:)

Imagine that, the amount of money you invest in the talent on the field having a direct correlation to wins.

Fat Scott? Clark? Your thoughts on this?

Hammock Parties 01-02-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny961 (Post 8255403)
Vermeil had his own motivational style that worked for him.

Worked for no playoff wins! :wayne:

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-03-2012 02:18 PM

http://mellinger.kansascity.com/entr...unken-shyness/


@ChiefsandOsFan Is Mcdaniels the next OC of chiefs?

I don’t think so, but I wouldn’t bet a lot of money on it. Wrote this in the column off the Denver game, but I was told in very clear and strong words that Josh McDaniels wasn’t and won’t be interviewed for the head coaching job.

Final say on the coordinators will go to the head coach — still think it’ll be Romeo, but messages are mudding up a bit — but if you read anything into the information about McDaniels, it’s not a good sign for his chances.



Sam is Backpeddling

O.city 01-03-2012 02:53 PM

Good.

No to McD. Seems like the FO is actually putting time into this decision and not going knee jerk and giving it to ROmeo.

If they go thru the process and he is the guy they like the most, fine. But don't just give it to him just because.

RustShack 01-03-2012 03:07 PM

Romeo is the best candidate for the job.

Shox 01-03-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dexter Manley (Post 8254772)
Ah shut up and get back to hockey...

Have Chiefs have season ticket holders. They need to tell the Hunts that Pioli had his chance and doesn't deserve another season as Chiefs GM...

I'm a season ticket holder, I DON't want Pioli gone. You don't build a winning football franchise by replacing GMs every 3rd season. Pioli has not done an amazing job, but he has not been nearly as bad as many on the Planet rant about.

Give him credit he canned a horrible hire in Haley in the middle of the season. Most would not make such a move. He had a solid drafts with the exception of his first, where he went to work very late in process. He has made some solid FA signings.....Breaston & Siler.
He has hired some good coaches (except Hali), Crennel DC, Weiss OC, Thomas DBs.


I really see 3 significant errors; 1. Hiring Haley. 2. Leting Haley go with Muir as defacto OC. 3. Jackson with his 1st pick, he was a huge reach.

Many would say Cassell is a huge mistake. I don't think so. Cassell looked like he might be a quality QB the season he played for the Partiots. He was acquired for the right price and it just did not pan out. It happens all the time in the NFL. The mistake will be if they bring him back.

I'm probably in the minority, but I think Pioli has done a solid job. Not a miracle worker, but a solid job. Give him a B. However, if he does not move on let the Cassel era end then he will quickly turn the B into an F.

FAX 01-03-2012 03:13 PM

This has likely been mentioned (I have not the time to read this whole, entire thread thing), but Crennel has a nice end-of-season press conference on the Chiefs site.

They cut him off at the end, though. It would be nice to hear the entire presser since he is asked about what "needs" he feels the Chiefs have at this time. He says, "I'll be general with you, but we need depth across the board." You get the feeling that he continues to expand on that response, but the bastards who run the Chiefs site go dark at that point.

If anyone has any ideas where a dude person can find the entire press conference, that would be pretty great.

FAX

htismaqe 01-03-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny961 (Post 8255403)
Just because a coach isn't a total prick doesn't necessarily mean that they can't motivate and lead a disciplined team. Dick Vermeil was known as a players coach yet the guys here at the time seemed to play hard for him. Vermeil had his own motivational style that worked for him. I'm not saying I think that hiring Crennel is a 100% certainty as far as success goes but IMO he has earned a shot at it anyway.

Several of the vets complained about Vermeil the whole time he was here. Willie Roaf retired rather than deal with that training camp again.


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