LMAO OK

Join us in 2012 where QBs rule.

Crappy runners will also skew it as well, just in the other direction. We went from a great back to Jones/Battle/McCluster. Charles probably helped the line more than those three hurt it, but its still looking at two extremes. Even if an average RB was used next year, the numbers might fall a little further in the middle.

You are an idiot.

You can say that about every single position on the field.

With the new rookie pay scale, the positional value thing as it relates to the draft is minimized.

Konz is far and away the best center. We need a center.

Did you go ape shit crazy when we took a 3-4 defensive end or a safety with a top five pick the past two years? Because both of those positions are right there with Center and Right Tackle in terms of perceived positional value.

Or are you one of those reeruns that is happy overdrafting for a substandard quarterback because, well, "we need to take a quarterback, any quarterback, in the first round because we haven't done it in a long, long time."?

I'm actually fine with the first two rounds you have here Sac. I'd replace one of the picks with Chris Polks if he is still around. I don't really like Ballard that well but he would be alright.

The first two picks of this draft sure up the offensive line for the next 10 years.

It would be awesome if we could trade down, still get Konz, pick up a second rounder, and draft Hightower and Reynolds in the second.

Shit. If Ricky Stanzi really is Tom Brady, that's a Super Bowl right there.

There we go.


Stanzi equals Super Bowl

I couldn't think of a better scenario for the Chiefs.

Other than the first ten teams passing on Luck.

I'd be good with the top two picks both came as the result of trade down profit.

Take Konz at around 17 or 18 and then Reynolds with the trade down profit.

That would leave us with our original 2nd to work with, as well.

I obviously didn't read the rest of the thread before posting that.

n00b mistake.

Carry on.

Now I have to go take a shower after agreeing with sac on something draft related.

I still don't understand the love for a 2nd rounder on Matt Reynolds. No one, and I repeat... no one has him ranked above Potter. Potter is rolling with a 3rd round grade. The only person who has Reynolds ranked in the 2nd-3rd round is Walter. Then you look at his mock draft and he doesn't even have him in his first 4 rounds because he hasn't updated his OT rankings in a month.

Isn't he having surgery on his shoulder?

He's big, athletic, experienced, durable (started every game in his four year career) and is effective in both the run and pass. He's very consistent in his game and has played well against the good teams that BYU has faced.

The mockers don't like his age (he'll be 26 when he plays in the NFL) and probably use it to push him down in their drafts, but he's NFL ready and will be able to play on either side of the line. I seriously doubt that he'll make it out of the second round.

And, to the best of my knowledge, he had ortho on his shoulder after the 2010 season - not this season. (He'll play in the East-West Shrine game this month.)

Two time BYU team captain, three-time conference first team, Lombardi and Outland nominee, former HS All-American and the third highest ranked recruit ever at BYU.

He dropped weight this past season and played at 305 in 2011. I think he plays better at the 325 mark and is most likely suited to the right side of the line. However, his extensive experience at left tackle in college gives him a solid foundation in pass protection.

I think he'd be balls as a right tackle and the Chiefs desperately need one.

He might last until the fourth, but I seriously doubt it. Guys of his size, experience, athletic ability and production don't really stick around that long in the draft.

IMO, Potter is a pure LT in the Ryan Clady mold. If you want to move Albert over to the right side and put Potter in at LT, then okay.

I think I'd rather have Albert/Reynolds then Potter/Albert at this point. (I don't think Albert would be a very good RT.)

And adding to the Reynolds thing, I really think that some people doing internet mocks have never seen most of these guys play. Here is some quotes on Reynolds from fftoolbox draft grades:

Undersized? The guy is huge, with a big, thick base. He's damn near prototype size for an NFL right tackle. Tell me if this looks undersized:

http://www.thecollegefootballgirl.co...lds-OT-BYU.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1272325673
http://pfw.s3.amazonaws.com/prospect...hot_304050.jpg

The guy is seven times bigger than anyone else on the field.

And he's always been a guy who absolutely plays through the whistle looking to put his guy on the ground. Plays mean and always finishes the play.

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(And even after dropping weight, and in the final game of the season, he still looks completely undersized, right?)

I doubt most people doing mocks have even watched a team west of the Mississippi play, let alone do a serious evaluation of a specific player.

No, Reynolds is a very good player and I seriously doubt he sees the end of the second round. You never know, but as I stated, I think he's got all the tools to be a Day 1 starter at the next level at RT and play there for a long time.

I like how you picked pictures of him taking on defensive backs for a size comparison.