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Rasputin 04-30-2012 12:19 PM

Bfd. It's best to play the spoiler anyways, but yet Casseled. :spock:

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8582950)
he's among the group that has bitched about Pioli from Day 1.

Pioli is a dictator ...
Pioli forced Haley to .... *insert player/coach/play call here*
Pioli is mean to janitors ...

You aren't going to get ANY benefit of the doubt or anything else from him.

Just scream Pioli and Cassel suck if you want him to cheer.

Why should anyone give them the benefit of the doubt, other than to be a flaming homer?

They so-called "Executive of the Decade" has compiled a roster worthy of 21 wins in 3 seasons.

Until they prove otherwise, they are what they are.

Bowser 04-30-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8582946)
Remove QB from the equation and I'm 100% comfortable saying they're not a bottom 10 team. I'd still argue they're not a top 10 team, but at least not a bottom 10.

With Matt Cassel under center, there's no way in hell I'm comfortable categorically stating that this in not a bottom 10 team.

This is a necessary repost.

On top of Cassel, we still have Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator, who has historically been crap as a coordinator. Then there is Romeo, who has exactly *one* playoff season as a head coach.

Regardless of how you feel our draft went and how it sets us up for this season and seasons to come, we still have to overcome Cassel and Daboll's shortcomings, which is going to take more than good intentions and a smile.

ChiefRocka 04-30-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 8582939)
Wait, I had heard about Claiborne's Wonderlic... But did he actually spell his name "Morrris"?

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**** this...peace, I'm out homie...fastest Wonderlic finisher!!!

Direckshun 04-30-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8582947)
Funny, the Broncos went 8-8 last year and won a playoff game, something we haven't done in nearly 20 years - yet you'd put us ahead of them.

You're arguing that we're better than our 7-9 record.

So what does record have to do with it?

I would not put us ahead of the Broncos. They have a HOF QB right now.

I would have put them ahead with Tebow this time last year, along with the vast majority of NFL speculators. That run they had was magical, not something you can rely on occurring regularly.

You've just hedged your bets in a clever way as to allow you to speculate freely without having to worry about getting burnt.

A crappy team, but manages 8 wins against a legitimately tough schedule. That means the only way you're wrong is if Cassel pulls magic out of his ass and plays like a Pro Bowler, guiding this team to a 10+ win season and a playoff run.

I think this team is better now than its 7-9 record indicated last year.

You think the team is worse, I suppose? Yet will improve on its record, with our best players on both side of the ball returning.

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8582959)
This is a necessary repost.

On top of Cassel, we still have Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator, who has historically been crap as a coordinator. Then there is Romeo, who has exactly *one* playoff season as a head coach.

Regardless of how you feel our draft went and how it sets us up for this season and seasons to come, we still have to overcome Cassel and Daboll's shortcomings, which is going to take more than good intentions and a smile.

Pure hate.

Direckshun 04-30-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8582958)
Why should anyone give them the benefit of the doubt, other than to be a flaming homer?

They so-called "Executive of the Decade" has compiled a roster worthy of 21 wins in 3 seasons.

Until they prove otherwise, they are what they are.

You can qualify that by saying the Chiefs have had two shots at a true franchise QB in four offseasons -- reaching for Dalton or ripping Manning from Elway's clutches -- and has had to essentially completely rebuild a shit roster that just went 2-14.

DJ's left nut 04-30-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8582950)
he's among the group that has bitched about Pioli from Day 1.

Pioli is a dictator ...
Pioli forced Haley to .... *insert player/coach/play call here*
Pioli is mean to janitors ...

You aren't going to get ANY benefit of the doubt or anything else from him.

Just scream Pioli and Cassel suck if you want him to cheer.

Why should Pioli get the benefit of the doubt?

He inherited Hali, Johnson, Flowers, Charles, Carr, Albert and Bowe yet with that much talent at incredibly key positions he's managed to turn in 2 awful seasons with 1 mediocre season sandwiched in the middle.

Do SOMETHING and he'll get the benefit of the doubt from me.

All I see is someone that is still coasting off his NE pedigree. But the problem is that he's gone from NE and yet NE is doing the same thing, year in, year out, that they did when he was there. Kinda suggests that maybe he wasn't the reason for those successes now doesn't it?

When he can reverse the ratios from having 1 2011 draft for 3 2009, 10 and 12 drafts to have 3 2011 drafts to every 1 of those abortions, I'll consider giving him the benefit of the doubt.

But hey - at least he's taking his undersized injury cases and kick returners in the 4th and 5th rounds now instead of the 2nd. So he's learning.

Direckshun 04-30-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8582963)
Pure hate.

Again, all due respect, but get off the cross.

I won't speak for asshat Laz, but I haven't slung "hate" around in this thread at all.

You want to swim against the stream on this team on CP?

Be ready to handle it.

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8582962)
I would not put us ahead of the Broncos. They have a HOF QB right now.

I would have put them ahead with Tebow this time last year, along with the vast majority of NFL speculators. That run they had was magical, not something you can rely on occurring regularly.

You've just hedged your bets in a clever way as to allow you to speculate freely without having to worry about getting burnt.

A crappy team, but manages 8 wins against a legitimately tough schedule. That means the only way you're wrong is if Cassel pulls magic out of his ass and plays like a Pro Bowler, guiding this team to a 10+ win season and a playoff run.

I think this team is better now than its 7-9 record indicated last year.

You think the team is worse, I suppose? Yet will improve on its record, with our best players on both side of the ball returning.

And there you go again - assuming the worst, though the evidence points to the contrary.

If Charles and Berry return and play at 100% of their previous ability, this team should theoreticallywin more games.

But there's little evidence to suggest that will happen. Most athletes coming back from ACL surgery don't get back to form until the second year post-surgery, if at all.

Bowser 04-30-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8582963)
Pure hate.

You forgot "unmitigated" and/or "unsubstantiated".

DJ's left nut 04-30-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8582966)
You can qualify that by saying the Chiefs have had two shots at a true franchise QB in four offseasons -- reaching for Dalton or ripping Manning from Elway's clutches -- and has had to essentially completely rebuild a shit roster that just went 2-14.

It was nowhere near a shit roster.

Very few GMs in the last decade have inherited as much high-end talent as Pioli did when he came into this organization.

And he's done jack shit with it.

DJ's left nut 04-30-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8582972)
Again, all due respect, but get off the cross.

I won't speak for asshat Laz, but I haven't slung "hate" around in this thread at all.

You want to swim against the stream on this team on CP?

Be ready to handle it.

Necessary re-post.

Laz is certainly an asshat.

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8582966)
You can qualify that by saying the Chiefs have had two shots at a true franchise QB in four offseasons -- reaching for Dalton or ripping Manning from Elway's clutches -- and has had to essentially completely rebuild a shit roster that just went 2-14.

They have a shot EVERY year.

They choose not to take it.

Ask Washington how to get a QB when you're not drafting Top 2.

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8582970)
Why should Pioli get the benefit of the doubt?

He inherited Hali, Johnson, Flowers, Charles, Carr, Albert and Bowe yet with that much talent at incredibly key positions he's managed to turn in 2 awful seasons with 1 mediocre season sandwiched in the middle.

Do SOMETHING and he'll get the benefit of the doubt from me.

All I see is someone that is still coasting off his NE pedigree. But the problem is that he's gone from NE and yet NE is doing the same thing, year in, year out, that they did when he was there. Kinda suggests that maybe he wasn't the reason for those successes now doesn't it?

When he can reverse the ratios from having 1 2011 draft for 3 2009, 10 and 12 drafts to have 3 2011 drafts to every 1 of those abortions, I'll consider giving him the benefit of the doubt.

But hey - at least he's taking his undersized injury cases and kick returners in the 4th and 5th rounds now instead of the 2nd. So he's learning.

I am quoting this post to show my agreement with it's content.

Hater.


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