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spades 08-12-2012 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 8811566)
Key takeaway is that Manning's ability to bring the team from behind to pull out last-minute wins dropped dramatically in 2011. I agree with this assessment -- not only did Manning have trouble working the magic of earlier seasons, but he seemed to get less accurate in those situations then the past.

He's a huge upgrade for Denver. He'll likely win a couple games for them. But the writer is also correct that if not for 3-4 games where opposing teams just did something crazy-stupid, Denver is a 4-12 team last season.
That makes sense. Since Manning didn't play in 2011. I would expect a dramatic drop off

mr. tegu 08-12-2012 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8811396)
The defense has to become a top 10-12 unit...
I see absolutely no evidence that this is going to happen.

Quesadilla Joe 08-13-2012 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 8812783)
I see absolutely no evidence that this is going to happen.
The Bears only crossed the 50 yard line twice against Denver last week. Our DL depth is damn good, so much so that teams will actually be watching our cuts on the DL for the first time in years. Jeremy Beal, Mitch Unrein, Malik Jackson, and Kevin Vickerson would all be picked up immediately if they were released.

-King- 08-13-2012 08:11 AM
Guys, a Cutler-less, Forte-less Bear team only crossed the 50 once! Broncos defense is elite!
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Quesadilla Joe 08-13-2012 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8813039)
Guys, a Cutler-less, Forte-less Bear team only crossed the 50 once! Broncos defense is elite!
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The Cardinals didn't have anyone of the caliber of Cutler or Forte, yet you guys are pretty happy with the Chiefs performance.

Chiefs=Champions 08-13-2012 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8813044)
The Cardinals didn't have anyone of the caliber of Cutler or Forte, yet you guys are pretty happy with the Chiefs performance.
They have a prettt good wr...

mr. tegu 08-13-2012 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8812956)
The Bears only crossed the 50 yard line twice against Denver last week. Our DL depth is damn good, so much so that teams will actually be watching our cuts on the DL for the first time in years. Jeremy Beal, Mitch Unrein, Malik Jackson, and Kevin Vickerson would all be picked up immediately if they were released.
And Barry Richardson is playing on a team this year. What's your point?

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8813044)
The Cardinals didn't have anyone of the caliber of Cutler or Forte, yet you guys are pretty happy with the Chiefs performance.
The Cardinals were also in their second preseason game so they would naturally be a little ahead of most teams.

Quesadilla Joe 08-13-2012 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 8813063)
They have a prettt good wr...
Yea they do. A WR doesn't have as much impact on a game as a QB and a RB and it also seemed like the Cardinals weren't trying to target Fitz when he was out there.

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 8813104)

The Cardinals were also in their second preseason game so they would naturally be a little ahead of most teams.
So were the Saints and they only put up 6 points in their second game.

Chiefs=Champions 08-13-2012 09:01 AM
Exactly why the bears were much worse off. The cards played their starters.

TEX 08-13-2012 10:38 AM
I think the AFC West is going to be much tougher than people think. Denver will also have to contend with that. KC and San Diego are going to surprise many. Oakland I think will be the only dog in the division. But you can throw the records out in rivalry games.

vailpass 08-13-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8813044)
The Cardinals didn't have anyone of the caliber of Cutler or Forte, yet you guys are pretty happy with the Chiefs performance.
Cards top 2 RBs didn't play in that game. Probably wouldn't have mattered, Cards are lucky to win 3 this year. Preseason is good for breaking the football drought but doesn't tell us much.

RealSNR 08-13-2012 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8813125)
So were the Saints and they only put up 6 points in their second game.
So the Donks defense rulez and the Saints offense sucks.

Got it. :spock:

vailpass 08-13-2012 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 8812761)
Agreed. Denver's D will be their achilles heel again i.e. to the D-line and D-backfield. Champ's way past his prime and you can play around him anyhow.

If Cassel plays good not great but just good (although we all would like for him to play great) our Chiefs win the West hands down. Our D will kick ass even more because they will actually have had some rest not being on the field 2/3rds of the time.
Preseason on CP is a great thing to behold.

Ugly Duck 08-13-2012 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 8809838)
Beyond Dumervil and Miller, Denver is incredibly thin across the rest of their front seven. Limited players who would be situational players on good teams will have to start for the Broncos this season. The players behind them are even worse.
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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8812956)
Our DL depth is damn good, so much so that teams will actually be watching our cuts on the DL for the first time in years.
Hey... your assessment almost seems the opposite of the article's! Why is that?

Imon Yourside 08-13-2012 04:06 PM
Donks = Teh Suckz


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