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Micjones 08-17-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8825612)
and using your 3rd,4th,5th best RB when you have so many other options is...well...a complete waste.

let's just run our 4th string QB out there in every game just to use them and not be 'silly'

you play your best players on ever snap unless they need a break ... we have plenty of RB's that can keep Charles fresh without using DMC.

You know that Draughn and Gray are better today.
I don't. I believe they will be, but I haven't seen either of them produce in a real game. Until such time...there is ZERO reason to strike McCluster from the conversation.

Hell I'm not even arguing he should get 50 carries this season.
I never set a number to it. I just think it's a little crazy to think he won't get any carries from the backfield this year. He has the skillset. Why wouldn't they utilize it every now and again?

O.city 08-17-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825614)
The argument here is that no play should go to anyone other than your very best skill players at the position.

So Devon Wylie will just have to understand when Cassel looks to Bowe and Breaston on every offensive pass play.
:rolleyes:

Yep, exactly the same thing.



Nice edit, btw.

Micjones 08-17-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8825625)
Yep, exactly the same thing.



Nice edit, btw.

I realized I hadn't made an equal analogy.
Sue me.

End of the day... In his rookie season, he got 1 carry a game, as a WR.
He had two better backs ahead of him then...
Why are you certain that won't happen this year?

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825614)
The argument here is that no play should go to anyone other than your very best skill players at the position.

So Devon Wylie will just have to understand when Cassel looks to Bowe and Breaston on every offensive pass play.
:rolleyes:

that's not the same and you know it


when you send multiple receivers out then you find the open guy


but sending your 3rd/4th/5th string RB out there 'just because' is silly.


you don't get enough offensive snaps to just run guys out there.


hey ... maybe we will have a dominant offense and DMC can gets some carries in the 4th quarter when we are up by 40.

But tbh even then i would probably give Gray the leftover stuff.

O.city 08-17-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825628)
I realized I hadn't made an equal analogy.
Sue me.

End of the day... In his rookie season, he got 1 carry a game, as a WR.
He had two better backs ahead of him then...
Why are you certain that won't happen this year?

Because I believe we have better guys in front of him at running back that should take that carry.



I have no problem using him in the slot. I think he has looked pretty good in that spot this year.

Micjones 08-17-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8825630)
that's not the same and you know it

Because pass plays are never designed to go to a certain WR.
What was I thinking?

Micjones 08-17-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8825632)
Because I believe we have better guys in front of him at running back that should take that carry.



I have no problem using him in the slot. I think he has looked pretty good in that spot this year.

We can agree to disagree.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825638)
Because pass plays are never designed to go to a certain WR.
What was I thinking?

RB vrs WR is completely different

one is GOING to get the ball, the other is an OPTION to get the ball.

but yes, the offense should target Bowe,Baldwin and Breaston first ... always.

McCluster/Wylie/Copper should be alternative options


if Charles/Hillis/Draughn/Gray get hurt then we can go to the DMC option at running back.

Micjones 08-17-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8825656)
RB vrs WR is completely different. one is GOING to get the ball, the other is an OPTION to get the ball.

Holy shit!
I gotta write this down.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8825665)
Holy shit!
I gotta write this down.

hey buddy ... we kept this civil until now.


don't make me turn this car around :cuss:

Micjones 08-17-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8825680)
hey buddy ... we kept this civil until now.


don't make me turn this car around :cuss:

ROFL

BossChief 08-17-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 8825481)
Matt Ryan is 13-10 outdoors with a qb rating of 82.3
He is 30-11 indoors with a qb rating of 91.4

Being at Arrowhead bodes well for us in many ways

His completion% drops off even further on the road, playing on grass.

...

As far as Dexter as a running back...he is probably our 4th or 5th best back, but didn't he average like 4.5 per rush?

That's not as bad as some of you are making it out to be.

Especially when we bitched about Haley using him to run up the middle so much.

saphojunkie 08-17-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8825746)
His completion% drops off even further on the road, playing on grass.

...

As far as Dexter as a running back...he is probably our 4th or 5th best back, but didn't he average like 4.5 per rush?

That's not as bad as some of you are making it out to be.

Especially when we bitched about Haley using him to run up the middle so much.

Sure, but it was 3rd and 9, and those 4.5 yards didn't move the chains. I'm less interested in a RB YPC and more interested in their conversion rate for first downs.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 02:24 PM

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