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Simply Red 10-02-2012 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 8971490)
I listen to his podcast about how to bring a handcun and coke to an airport. Highly informative.
:LOL::banghead:

Beat me to it.

DaneMcCloud 10-02-2012 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8971506)
You know, I think I would welcome Marty. For most of my 40+ year tenure as a Chiefs fan, Marty comes about as close as anyone to having an era where the Chiefs established their own identity. The team, city, and entire fan base was energized under Marty.

I also think Marty knows from his days in San Diego that having an ass hat that meddles in the decision making of coaching a football team is detrimental to that said team. I really believe he would persuade Clark to move on from Pioli... which IMO is the first domino that needs to fall. Maybe even over Cassel... and I think everyone here is aware of my dislike for watching Cassel QB my football team.

I'm not real sure which direction Marty would push upon Clark, but I suspect it could be along the lines of Cowher... which would be fine with me, because for me, what Bill Cowher brings to the table is what I think KC football is all about.
**** this. Marty already consulted Hunt. That's how the Chiefs ended up with Pioli.

And **** Cowher. He's been out of the game since 2006. That's a long time.

Coogs 10-02-2012 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8971519)
**** this. Marty already consulted Hunt. That's how the Chiefs ended up with Pioli.

And **** Cowher. He's been out of the game since 2006. That's a long time.
If Marty suggested this ****ing regime to Clark, then I agree... and disregard my post for being a total dumbass!

Rasputin 10-02-2012 06:32 PM
Clark Hunt wouldn't need a cosnultant if he read Chiefs Planet :)



Oh and Marty is ****ing OLD anyone see a picture of him lately?

BossChief 10-02-2012 06:35 PM
Cowher would bring an attacking 3-4 defense that would allow us to get the most out of the talent we have on defense. He would also push HARD for a first round quarterback after getting his success with Big Ben.

My concerns with him would be if he still has the fire in his belly to be the yelling, cursing, spitting demanding leader he was with Pitrsburgh or if he has matured as a tv face and wouldn't be able to regain the same frame of mind he had as a hc....the other concern is if he choses the wrong qb.

He held on forever with Kordell Stuart and I'm afraid we might get another wasted speak of time with a similar player like we have been through with Cassel.


He he still has that fire, he is a guy that players always responded to and played hard for every week.

el borracho 10-02-2012 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 8966151)
Discuss :D
There is no point to this plan. If you think your GM needs that much help, then you need to fire him immediately.

el borracho 10-02-2012 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 8966346)
I have been surprised by the lack of on-the-field leadership with this team. Pioli made a point of drafting team captain types but I don't see them on Sunday. I see no one with passion and fire getting in people's faces to fire them up also. This leads to slow starts, never leading a game all season except the final score in NO, and just a lackluster attitude from the team. Charles' big runs seems to get them fired up but we need someone who will get these players excited to play each week at the start of the game.
If you are looking for someone to get the players fired up, then you do not want a bunch of boy scouts like Cassel- you actually want a talented loud-mouth with an aggressive streak like Ray Lewis.

BossChief 10-02-2012 06:44 PM
Get this team a quarterback and it will cure 80% of it's problems.

el borracho 10-02-2012 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 8966383)
Weak sauce...it's not an either/or option and silly to make such a ludicrous logical jump.

The Marty years were a mirage, go back and watch the games -- many of them KC had no business winning were never in the game and pulled out a miracle KO/Punt return, etc. Pffft...it's a waste of time to argue about Marty.

He's a proven loser. Just leave him be.
Marty did poorly in the playoffs, that is true. And one can argue all day long whether that was his fault or circumstance. But... Marty is not a "loser." IIRC, Marty had one of the best winning percentages of active coaches while he was here and that figure probably improved in San Diego.

Mojo Jojo 10-02-2012 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8971519)
**** this. Marty already consulted Hunt. That's how the Chiefs ended up with Pioli.

And **** Cowher. He's been out of the game since 2006. That's a long time.
Not as long as Dick Vermeil, and he came back and won a Super Bowl with a team that the worst in the NFL when he took over. Your logic is flawed.

chiefzilla1501 10-02-2012 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 8971558)
Marty did poorly in the playoffs, that is true. And one can argue all day long whether that was his fault or circumstance. But... Marty is not a "loser." IIRC, Marty had one of the best winning percentages of active coaches while he was here and that figure probably improved in San Diego.
Marty is considered to be one of the best fundamentals/technical coaches to ever coached the game. His teams play with perfect technique and an unbelievable amount of discipline.

It's just too bad he just can't win in the playoffs. But if you blend Marty's coaching with someone else calling the shots, that would be one hell of a thing.

DaneMcCloud 10-02-2012 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 8971563)
Not as long as Dick Vermeil, and he came back and won a Super Bowl with a team that the worst in the NFL when he took over. Your logic is flawed.
And you're a ****ing idiot.

Rausch 10-02-2012 06:53 PM
So we should hire someone so Clark can find out what the **** is going on in his own organization?

Seriously?

No wonder this team is a ****ing joke...

DaneMcCloud 10-02-2012 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8971567)
Marty is considered to be one of the best fundamentals/technical coaches to ever coached the game.
By whom?

If he was so great, why hasn't he been hired by an NFL in ANY capacity since being fired in San Diego?

chiefzilla1501 10-02-2012 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8971578)
So we should hire someone so Clark can find out what the **** is going on in his own organization?

Seriously?

No wonder this team is a ****ing joke...
I don't see a problem with this if it means dismantling Pioli's ****ed up regime, and Marty consulting on both a General Manager he'd gladly work for as a head coach, and helping out in interviewing the next head coach.


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