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NewChief 10-29-2012 08:42 PM

I used today to do a little extracurricular education of my students as one, who was obviously on Facebook on her phone looking at this pic, asked me about the Tomb of the Unknown. By the time we finished discussing, there were more than a few misty eyes in the room.

tredadda 10-29-2012 08:48 PM

I truly understand the dedication of those that serve as a guard even when no one is there because of the hurricane. To do what they do regardless of whether 1000 people are watching or zero are watching is phenomenal. That is why them doing this for their brothers who have fallen but were not forgotten in previous wars is the highest of honors.

Garcia Bronco 10-29-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9064128)
Thank you. I was on my phone and didn't feel like doing research.



I had never heard of the tomb before..

Seems odd to me that they can remain unknown. I mean, don't they have records of who's in the military? Wouldn't a higher ranking officer or member if their platoon or whatever notice they were missing and report it? Couldn't they figure out who they were just by process of elimination?

War is Hell. There is no such thing as a moral war. Remember that. Warfare should only be used when all other means have been exhausted.

HonestChieffan 10-29-2012 09:09 PM

I went to Europe three years ago on a WW2 tour. We went to American, brit, and German cemeteries. Its amazing the number of graves noted as an unknown soldier. Our effort reflects respect to all not just those from the US

GloryDayz 10-29-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 9062568)
It just seems really odd to me that something like this would rise to the top as the most honorable and respected service in the military. Again, please excuse my ignorance, but I would think that the most elite and respected servicemen would want to do something other than standing like a statue all day guarding a cemetery. Just the thought of taking an otherwise boring, uneventful, and potentially shitty job like standing in the rain guarding dead people, and making it the most prized and respected duty, just doesn't make sense. And there's got to be a point where it's a danger to these guys, to stand out there. I mean, if a tornado rolls right through there, are these guys expected to die because of this tradition? Or would they be justified in running like hell?

It's awesome, just leave it at that. As for the tornado, maybe this picture answers your question without words. It's just a matter of intensity. Maybe they'd run, maybe they'd stay. Here's the question (if there really is one), what might you do?

I've known one guy who had this duty.... He thought it was like looking into the eyes of God. How's that for liking your job!

Agree or not, there are awesome men standing their watch. And it may not be on the front lines, it's where they are.... I love these guys, whomever they are! And I thank them for their service too!

listopencil 10-29-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 9062790)
the enjoyment of their work day didn't depend on the weather


You have to be trolling.

stevieray 10-29-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9064168)
I truly understand the dedication of those that serve as a guard even when no one is there because of the hurricane. To do what they do regardless of whether 1000 people are watching or zero are watching is phenomenal. That is why them doing this for their brothers who have fallen but were not forgotten in previous wars is the highest of honors.

....from what I've been told, it is highly sought after and very hard to get the assignment.

and rightly so....


...USMC Silent Drill Team at Arrowhead yesterday....whoa...best thing on the field all day....phenomenal!

GloryDayz 10-29-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9062973)
Again, I agree - it's not logical. But if you have trouble understanding the purpose of guarding the Tomb of the Unknowns, I'd imagine you'd have similar feelings toward just about every monument we have. After all, what does a giant, phallic hunk of rock have to do with George Washington for example? Monuments are strange things - they exist purely to give us something to remember.

In this case, the only difference is that it's so important for us to remember that its existence isn't enough to elevate it as high as is warranted, so we (as a country) have determined it requires the addition of a symbolic "guard" to emphasize its importance even more.

Add a of bits to that... Those who lost loved ones and had nothing to bury and the belief of an after-life (if there is one) for those who did come home (often times a very hard thing to deal with). It's important to have a reminder that we'll never give up, never forget, never stop trying, to find an honor those who didn't come home. For bones in a grave it may mean little, but for those who sacrificed their loved one whom might be what's represented in that crypt, it's nice to know that they'll be forever remembered and thought of respectfully. And for those who have returned without all their brother's in arms, memorials like this mean a lot. They have a place to visualize and in some cases exercise their pain.

I'm not sure about the after-life, but I know if you've ever been part of it, even if to just see these memorials, "The Wall", The WW-I memorial, the WW-II, the Korean War" memorials, or "The Tomb" it's humbling.

So I think these monuments mean as much to those who returned as for those who lost somebody who didn't return. And for them, it's priceless. As for the country, if it were just a brown sign on the side of the road showing that some guys came this way as they traveled west, would it mean much? Both important, both meaningful, but in reality....not...

Dayze 10-29-2012 09:35 PM

****in A . Nice man

ThaVirus 10-29-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9064184)
War is Hell. There is no such thing as a moral war. Remember that. Warfare should only be used when all other means have been exhausted.

Umm.. Ok?

FAX 10-29-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9064184)
... Warfare should only be used when all other means have been exhausted.

Or ... until somebody steals your grilled cheese sandwich.

Because it takes friggin' time to make a decent grilled cheese sandwich. It isn't like you slam some meat and mayonnaise and pickles between some bread. You have to cook a grilled cheese sandwich and you have to clean up after making a grilled cheese sandwich and while you're cooking a grilled cheese sandwich you have to be careful to avoid burning your grilled cheese sandwich and you damn sure don't want your grilled cheese sandwich to be under-done because then you might as well just have a cheese sandwich.

FAX

stevieray 10-29-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 9064669)
Or ... until somebody steals your grilled cheese sandwich.

Because it takes friggin' time to make a decent grilled cheese sandwich. It isn't like you slam some meat and mayonnaise and pickles between some bread. You have to cook a grilled cheese sandwich and you have to clean up after making a grilled cheese sandwich and while you're cooking a grilled cheese sandwich you have to be careful to avoid burning your grilled cheese sandwich and you damn sure don't want your grilled cheese sandwich to be under-done because then you might as well just have a cheese sandwich.

FAX

butter that bread!

grilled cheese and mater soup.....mmmmm.

Imon Yourside 10-30-2012 12:03 AM

7 Fake Hurricane Sandy Photos You’re Sharing on Social Media
Annie Colbert October 29, 2012 by Annie Colbert

Fake Hurricane Sandy photos flew around Twitter and Facebook on Monday, as users shared jaw-dropping images. Unfortunately, the race to post the most striking pics has most folks skipping the all-important fact check.

We’ve gathered up five “Hurricane Sandy” photographs that have spread on the social web, but weren’t actually taken during the massive storm.

Have you spotted a fake photograph? Tell us in the comments below.
1. Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

Soldiers weather hurricane conditions at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

The moving photo purporting to show soldiers standing guard at the Arlington National Cemetery monument during Hurricane Sandy quickly spread on the social web. But the Old Guard pointed out that the photo was actually a shot taken in September.

On Facebook, the group shared a real image taken during the early hours of the storm.

http://4.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploa...wn-soldier.jpg

more at this link http://mashable.com/2012/10/29/fake-...-sandy-photos/

Jenson71 10-30-2012 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9062510)
Can I get some background info here? Who's the Unknown Soldier?

Ulysses S. Grant.

HMc 10-30-2012 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 9064650)
Umm.. Ok?


ROFL

your post..his response...so confusing


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