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CoMoChief 05-18-2013 11:16 AM
There's really 2 keys to the success of this team.

1. Alex Smith needs to continue to improve on his recent NFL success. I personally don't think he'll be anything great, but as long as he's not Matt Cassel, or Brady Quinn we should be putting up more pts on the board.

2. Injuries. There are areas where this team doesn't have a lot of depth. If any of the following players are hurt we're probably screwed big time...

Eric Berry
Brandon Flowers
Justin Houston
Tamba Hali
Derrick Johnson
Jamaal Charles
Dwayne Bowe

This team can be anywhere from a 8 to 11 win team, probably get a WC spot at best, I don't see us beating Denver sadly.

milkman 05-18-2013 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9690519)

Yep you are right- when I see things swing soo far to one way like it has with the Alex trade- I tend to jump on the other side to level things out-lol I would think the "bad ass" stuff people saw through that as my way of showing their opinion was equally absurd- but they took it as I was his biggest fan.

I was on SNR's Geno band wagon briefly until it became obvious he was far from a #1 pick. This was a terrible year to get ANY QB let alone a future Brees or Rogers. Time will tell in the draft. Some wanted us to draft Bray as a QBOTF- and we picked him up for nothing. So all in all we upgraded our QB position accross the board form the absolute worst in NFL history to being competitive at least. What more could we do This year??

I was Not happy at all bringing in another stop gap- but it was pretty much their best option. My point was why call Alex every name in the book? It is childish and after so many weeks has grown repetitive and annoying.

I will try not to stir the pot so much-lol People dont seem to realize when I am being just as absurd as they are- but on the opposite side. I will be glad when this board balances out some and a few posters take their meds and simmer down with the hate-lol I will try not to be soo positive either- it definately gets on peoples nerves-lol
I've said this before.

People, including NFL personnel people, were looking at this QB draft through a prism skewed by last year's draft, and to a certain extent, by the previous draft.

I have always, and still, believe(d) that you take a QB high if you believe he has all the physical tools to be a franchise QB.

I don't believe that NFL personnel people think that Geno Smith lacks the physical tools.
Their questions were of the "Is he ready to start day one?" variety.

I don't think there's any question that he has all the phsical tools, and if he needs a year or 2 of seasoning on the bencch, so be it.

I take him 1.1.

Beef Supreme 05-18-2013 11:19 AM
I think you pretty much nailed the areas that most of us will be watching in pre-season.

Couple of random comments.

Andy Reid likes Alex Smith, and he made Kevin Kolb look like a rockstar. I don't know if Alex Smith can stay healthy or sling the rock in an Andy Reid offense, but Andy Reid thinks he can. And he definitely bought the beef to protect him. I wasn't a fan of the trade at all, but it's what we got. Go make it work.

I like it when our defense gets to the QB. I find joy in seeing quarterbacks get hit. Hopefully the new scheme helps us get there early and often.

As long as they don't have Berry covering Gates by himself, I'm good.

Jon Baldwin ...

Play good football.

Lotta big dogs up front, including the tight ends. Hopefully they are hungry.

One circus catch in the endzone and has been on IR ever since.

I am ready for a dominant D lineman, like hall of fame dominant. With all the high draft picks we spent there, we deserve one. Will the scheme help? Will Poe break out? Tune in next week.

Halfcan 05-18-2013 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9690541)
I've said this before.

People, including NFL personnel people, were looking at this QB draft through a prism skewed by last year's draft, and to a certain extent, by the previous draft.

I have always, and still, believe(d) that you take a QB high if you believe he has all the physical tools to be a franchise QB.

I don't believe that NFL personnel people think that Geno Smith lacks the physical tools.
Their questions were of the "Is he ready to start day one?" variety.

I don't think there's any question that he has all the phsical tools, and if he needs a year or 2 of seasoning on the bencch, so be it.

I take him 1.1.
Oh I loved the stats he put up- his highlights looked awesome- I want a Qb we can build on soo freaking bad believe me. teams like the Colts get manning and then Luck- but we get the has beens. Having Dawson win it all then going to what we have had since then- You would have to think they see the direct correlation to a Franchise QB and a consistently winning team. :shake: But that remains to be seen if they learned anything from last year. I think they did- but came into a bad year to turn over a new "Leaf" so to speak-lol


I was down on the chiefs as bad as anyone on here. With the murder suicide and the fan upheaval- I don't think I have seen a team sink so low. But I think Clark did everything he could to turn it around. i dont knwo what else besides drafting different people he could have done??

SAUTO 05-18-2013 11:33 AM
Dawson was technically a retread. That's what they are searching for, the next great retread.


Dawson ****ed us.


You are still a ****ing dumbass
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Rasputin 05-18-2013 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9690569)
Dawson was technically a retread. That's what they are searching for, the next great retread.


Dawson ****ed us.


You are still a ****ing dumbass
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It's funny, as much as people wanted to get rid of Carl Peterson. They are perfectly content to do the same exact moves that Carl Peterson has done or would do over his 20 years here.



If only we drafted Dan Marino or Jim Kelly instead of Todd Blackledge? :banghead:

Halfcan 05-18-2013 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9690569)
Dawson was technically a retread. That's what they are searching for, the next great retread.


Dawson ****ed us.


You are still a ****ing dumbass
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How did Dawson **** us? 2 SB's and a win. Do you know anything about football except what is told to you on ESPN. :spock:

SAUTO 05-18-2013 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9690623)
How did Dawson **** us? 2 SB's and a win. Do you know anything about football except what is told to you on ESPN. :spock:
Sorry you couldn't get basic logic.

Dawson, being a retread and winning a super bowl let the owners of this team believe that doing it that way works and they have been chasing it ever since. Therefore ****ing us
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Halfcan 05-18-2013 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9690627)
Sorry you couldn't get basic logic.

Dawson, being a retread and winning a super bowl let the owners of this team believe that doing it that way works and they have been chasing it ever since. Therefore ****ing us
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That is completely reeruned. ROFL So unless you are a Qb drafted by your team- you are a retread and you suck-? Wow. Hunt was old school- I don't think he ever valued the QB position.

I think the Blackledge embarrassment was the fianl blow- he was like I tried that and it failed- won't do that again- and he never did. Business men think like that- you try something and it fails- you don't do it. But football is more than a business though- lots of factors besides dollars and cents- that is something I don't think he ever grasped. He just left it up to others to say- hey this guy is good- sign the check.

Hydrae 05-18-2013 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9690415)
Alex Bad Ass Smith has not even played a ****ing game yet for us- how in the hell is JC being wasted? LMAO

You Alex Eeyores crack me up. :spock:
Alex Eeyores. ROFL

So true and describes the general attitude about Alex around here perfectly.

SAUTO 05-18-2013 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9690638)
That is completely reeruned. ROFL So unless you are a Qb drafted by your team- you are a retread and you suck-? Wow. Hunt was old school- I don't think he ever valued the QB position.

I think the Blackledge embarrassment was the fianl blow- he was like I tried that and it failed- won't do that again- and he never did. Business men think like that- you try something and it fails- you don't do it. But football is more than a business though- lots of factors besides dollars and cents- that is something I don't think he ever grasped. He just left it up to others to say- hey this guy is good- sign the check.
usually I would take offense to that first remark, but coming from someone obviously born with the condition I can't complain about using it.

And why has out been the same through at least three regimes?

Only constant is the owners.

And I didn't say every retread sucks. Dawson won a super bowl, but like I said that ****ed us.

But I'm sure you will tell me how you were at a game once and that means something
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chiefzilla1501 05-18-2013 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9690604)
It's funny, as much as people wanted to get rid of Carl Peterson. They are perfectly content to do the same exact moves that Carl Peterson has done or would do over his 20 years here.



If only we drafted Dan Marino or Jim Kelly instead of Todd Blackledge? :banghead:
Most people here aren't "content" as you say. There are some Alex Smith ballwashers on CP, but there are also plenty of us (like myself) who also understand it's not like we were surrounded with options this offseason.

If we're still using Alex Smith 3 years from now, then shit. But as of now, what I see is that the Chiefs passed up on a lot of QBs that a lot of teams were really, really down on. I agree with people worried about the Chiefs actually believing Smith is the long-term guy. It's a different story to throw tantrums and suggest that the front office doesn't get it because we don't like their moves in one year when the options sucked.

Hootie 05-18-2013 01:04 PM
when I see Alex Smith sign an extension before he plays a down, I'll be mad

until then I consider it the right move

SAUTO 05-18-2013 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9690669)
when I see Alex Smith sign an extension before he plays a down, I'll be mad

until then I consider it the right move
So you would be ok if it happened week two?
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patteeu 05-18-2013 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9690569)
Dawson was technically a retread. That's what they are searching for, the next great retread.


Dawson ****ed us.


You are still a ****ing dumbass
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There have been more Super Bowl winning QBs who were acquired through trade or free agency (9) than who were taken in the top 10 picks of the draft by the team they took to a SB championship (7).*


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* This excludes John Elway and Eli Manning who both refused to play for the team that was in a position to draft them. If you count them, it's actually 11-7.


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