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Bearcat 12-09-2013 09:00 AM

Great post, and completely agree. You should submit this to them as a follow up.

I'm not sure if it's always been this way, or maybe I was just too young to see it when I really enjoyed the NFL. In the past 5-7 years I've noticed the same thing, but I've also completed college (so I view everything from a different perspective) and the Chiefs have done plenty on the field to make me uninterested (note: it's no coincidence Herm was hired around the time this all started). So, I guess in some ways I'd have to rely on people who are older than me to help determine if it's always been this way, but my guess is that it hasn't... when products are starting out, the focus is in the right place, then money takes over.

As far as the game itself, it's a quarterback league that's all about the excitement of big offense... works really well for marketing and the casual fan, but games can be pretty ridiculous when there's no defense. Almost to the point of college shootouts.

It's a watered down league... over the top parity with too many teams, but every team has a chance, which is good for business. There's a lot of shitty football being played, but hey, your Tebow-led team or your 7-9 team still has a chance to make the playoffs, so you should buy season tickets! Just look at a lot of Chiefs fans... it's all about making the playoffs and having a chance from there. That kind of hope puts butts in seats.

As far as the business side of things, it's all about making more money than last year. Hey, if we made eleventy billion dollars two years in a row, we're stagnant! I've worked for a company that was all about the stock holder, and it couldn't have been more obvious in the way they treated everyone but the stock holder.

Ticket prices, wanting more games or even teams in London, the eleventy billion dollar TV deals that include 50% commercials.... it's all about squeezing every last penny out of existing sources of revenue and finding new sources, and a lot of it hurts the game or the fans.

When the focus isn't on the product and customer, those two things will suffer.

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10262886)
I don't think he takes orders from the NFL but that roided out freak Ed Hochuli takes advantage of every opportunity to make game changing calls that often are impossible to defend.

There is no other ref I'd fear having more in a meaningful game...

Jeff Triplett.

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262894)
I'm going to assume you're avoiding answering the question. How does playing in the Midwest in a smaller market make it less likely for the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl? If this was baseball and we were talking about the Royals, I'd agree. But football has revenue sharing and salary caps. Everyone has a chance. The teams that have a long run of success are largely the ones who drafted a great QB.

There's a reason we haven't drafted a great QB.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Gunner (Post 10262883)
even my wife said that game was rigged early on.

oh, and Marshall Faulk;

"I understand Bill [Belichick] is a great coach," Faulk told Curran. "But No. 13 [Kurt Warner] will tell you ... Mike Martz will tell you ... We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn't ran. I think we got to fourth down -- we ran three plays that we hadn't ran, that Mike drew up for that game. Bill's a helluva coach … we hadn't ran them the whole year [and the Patriots were ready for them]." And the only time that Rams practiced those plays? At the walkthrough.


nice lil article/video link here;

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ss-to-patriots

Did you actually just quote your wife as evidence that the NFL is rigged?

Rausch 12-09-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262884)
FWIW, I'm not suggesting that the NFL is rigged or blatantly biased (I do think it's inherently biased in some cases).

I think the combination of city, fans, ownership, NFL structure, and several other factors are going to make it nearly impossible for the Chiefs to win a Super Bowl.

"Why ain't there no Chiefs on that wall, Goodell? Huh?"

http://www.gettogethablog.com/wp-con...gSalBuggin.jpg

Rausch 12-09-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262893)
So basically, it's down to "we need a miracle".

When did that not appear to be the case?...

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262897)
There's a reason we haven't drafted a great QB.

and that is...

What, the NFL wouldn't allow it?

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10262901)
When did that not appear to be the case?...

That's the wrong question.

It's "when did I finally open my eyes and realize that was the case?"

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262903)
and that is...

What, the NFL wouldn't allow it?

I already told you.

Bearcat 12-09-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262903)
and that is...

What, the NFL wouldn't allow it?

Enough Chiefs fans are satisfied with mediocrity, so there's no point in "wasting" 2-3 years to develop a QB when you can sign a retread/stop gap and get butts in seats.

Buy season tickets.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10262905)
I already told you.

I didn't see a reason given as to why the Chiefs haven't drafted a great QB.

But instead of being an ass and typing "I already told you," you could have just said it.

T-post Tom 12-09-2013 09:13 AM

Welcome to a brave not-so-new world. This is a microcosm of modern society. Only one thing can revive you...

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htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262914)
I didn't see a reason given as to why the Chiefs haven't drafted a great QB.

But instead of being an ass and typing "I already told you," you could have just said it.

It's a small market. The margin for error, when it comes to filling the stadium, is razor thing.

And yes, you did see a reason. I posted it, ITEMIZED, in post #56.

Even better, you QUOTED post #56.

Why should I have to repeat myself over and over just to satisfy you're utterly stupid line of questioning?

Go back to DC dipshit. You don't belong in a football discussion.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10262909)
Enough Chiefs fans are satisfied with mediocrity, so there's no point in "wasting" 2-3 years to develop a QB when you can sign a retread/stop gap and get butts in seats.

Buy season tickets.

That makes absolutely no sense. You're under the impression that there have been a lot of butts in the seats the last few seasons?

htismaqe 12-09-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262919)
That makes absolutely no sense. You're under the impression that there have been a lot of butts in the seats the last few seasons?

Of course there haven't. They have been 8-8/9-7 the past few seasons either.

:facepalm:


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