Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10270610)

Keep him thru at least 2014, save some extra draft picks and draft Jameis Winston.

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10270609)

**** no. Has anyone learned ANY lessons?

Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN (Post 10270548)

...People forget real fast how lousy this team has been the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10270629)

Why do people keep saying this? In the last 10 years this team has had 10-6 records twice and even won the division and was in the playoffs one of those seasons. While I agree that most years in the past decade have been bad, let's at least try to be accurate.

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 10270632)

QB play since Trent left has been horrid.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10270346)

If the cap increases as expected, Smith at 9-12 million/yr is cheap enough to keep elite talent on both sides of the ball around him.

That's really my point - nobody thinks Smith is an elite guy; a guy that makes all his teammates better. But I think we've established that he can win and win big with a good team. If he's making 'game manager' money, then it makes sense to keep him because we can surround him with that good team.

And for the record, but/for the fact that Peyton Manning is a !@#$ing quarterbacking robot, I would absolutely believe that this team can win a Super Bowl, or at least get to one.

So let's say we extend Smith for 4 years/$40 million - in 2 years, Manning's gone and this team has a clear path to the AFCW.

"take my chances elsewhere...."

With what? Who? You want to let the guy leave after 2014 and spin the wheel on Bray?

I think Chiefs fans suddenly got really spoiled by a competent quarterback and just assume everyone has one. Folks - 1/2 the NFL is woefully inadequate at the QB position. I have no interest in re-joining those ranks.

We can win with Smith. We don't have a clear replacement for him. Go ahead and keep looking for young ones, but if you give Smith an extension that takes him through 2016/2017, you have plenty of time to find that young one without falling back into the abyss of shit we were just in.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10270605)

I think you're 100 percent right.

The Chiefs don't HAVE to extend Smith this season. They have another year of control. Get through the playoffs, see how things work out, see how the draft and FA work out.

Things I'd want to see before being OK with giving Smith an extension:

1) Chiefs need to win final 3 games of regular season.

2) Chiefs need to beat an elite team at some point this year, though they probably don't have another chance until the playoffs (Colts are not elite right now... Chargers are more of a fringe playoff team)

3) Alex Smith needs to play at an extremely high level and be a big part of the reason they win that playoff game. (I.E., Chiefs win 28-24 because the defense plays at an epic level and scores two TDs, not good enough).

Smith is a big upgrade from Matt Cassel and is at least a credible NFL starter, but he really has been a very average, middle-of-the-pack starter.

60 percent completion, 6.2 YPA (worst rate in the league for a starting QB) and a QB rating in the mid-80s is not enough to warrant an extension, bad receivers or no.

He's done nothing to disprove claims he is somewhere between the 15th and 25th best starting QB option in the league. I wouldn't be in a rush to extend him until he does.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10270084)

I'd have no problem giving him an extension if he plays well in the playoffs and we beat Indy.

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 10270628)

what lesson did you learn and what would you do?

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10270648)

The bolded part is the only thing I am 100% in disagreement with you on. It is only because it puts us at 13-3 and for whatever reason that is not a good record for us to have come playoff time.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10270670)

I get what you're saying... but looking at the remaining schedule, that would include a win at home against the Colts, who are just 3-3 in their past 6 games and have been devastated by injuries on offense, and wins at Oakland and San Diego.

Losing any of those games would be a warning sign to me.

I'd rather not enter the playoffs at 13-3, just like you, for superstitious purposes.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10270670)

I get what you're saying... but looking at the remaining schedule, that would include a win at home against the Colts, who are just 3-3 in their past 6 games and have been devastated by injuries on offense, and wins at Oakland and San Diego.

Losing any of those games would be a warning sign to me.

I'd rather not enter the playoffs at 13-3, just like you, for superstitious purposes.