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beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483351)
They don't have a 2nd round pick. They can't build through the draft without draft picks. That's basic fundamental logic.



ROFL

But if they have that 2nd, they would have no QB.
How does that Math not compute in your head?
You can't trade ANY picks for players or sign ANY FAs if you build through the draft?
That's just Stupid. Period.

Messier 03-12-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483299)
Dorsey and Reid traded two 2nd round draft picks for Alex Smith. They were very active in free agency. And used the draft to fill IMMEDIATE needs.

Now in year 2, they're doing the EXACT opposite.

Sorry if that's not a problem for you. For reasonable people, it doesn't add up.



Pure garbage. The fact that you think this is "supporting the Broncos" tells me everything I need to know.

Dorsey said at the end of last years offseason, they would not do that again , most likely. I think he meant be so active in FA and waiver wire.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10483645)
But if they have that 2nd, they would have no QB.
How does that Math not compute in your head?

Somebody can't grasp a hold of the fact that when today ends, there's actually a TOMORROW.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10483646)
Dorsey said at the end of last years offseason, they would not do that again , most likely. I think he meant be so active in FA and waiver wire.

So he immediately felt that they're approach was flawed. Either that or they succumbed to short-term thinking.

But we're supposed to give them a couple of years to settle in.

Messier 03-12-2014 10:22 AM

It's dumb to say they're being inconsistent. You have on offseason to go on, one they said was not going to be the norm.

BigRock 03-12-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483483)
Be adjusted? Sure. Do a complete 180? Um, that's the anthesis of a "plan".

The situation has done a 180. Last year they were taking on the football equivalent of breathing life back into an aborted fetus. The approach reflects the situation.

Messier 03-12-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483653)
So he immediately felt that they're approach was flawed. Either that or they succumbed to short-term thinking.

But we're supposed to give them a couple of years to settle in.

I think he meant they needed a lot of turn over last year. Not that it was a flawed plan.

beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:24 AM

You seem to think you either must choose to suck, and build through the draft, or blow your load on FAs and try to win now, but teams who are good at building through the draft and not signing the big names, are usually trying to win now EVERY YEAR.

beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483651)
Somebody can't grasp a hold of the fact that when today ends, there's actually a TOMORROW.

Tomorrow for Smith will probably end 6-7 years from now.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10483676)
Tomorrow for Smith will probably end 6-7 years from now.

Now there's some hope.

BossChief 03-12-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10483303)
Restructuring deals just screws you later. The bottom line is the Chiefs just don't have a lot of money right now.

sorry for being rude, but that's ignorant.

That rebuttal is not taking into account the fact that the cap is blowing up over the next 3 years and will be between 155-160 million 2 seasons from now and at that point, most of our star players will be past their prime or gone altogether.

FFS some of you just don't seem to be able to grasp the FACT that waiting 2 is unacceptable.

Let me try to relate this to Texas Holdem....

We've been in the tournament for 3 hours and the field has been cut in half and we got dealt AK suited and 2 other players pushed a lot of money pre flop and the pot is the largest it's been all night.

The flop comes AAK and 2 of those cards are hearts and the players that pushed money in per flop are continuing to push stacks of chips into the middle and we are at a position where we need to make a decision to fold or go all in.

The turn card comes 10hearts...

What KC is doing this offseason is just calling the bets while thinking about folding with hopes of waiting for a better hand.

The river card is a Qhearts.

Now, we are in a bad spot because we sat around and put ourselves into tat spot by not taking advantage of the flop.

Sorry, but there is a time when you need to be aggressive and push your chips into the middle and I think not trying to add a guy like Ward or Byrd is gonna end up giving another team a straight or royal flush and force us to stand up and leave the tournament.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483347)
And we could have gotten a top tier starter in round 2, too.

We're not trading down.

This isn't Madden.

I actually think that there is a good chance at moving down as long as we are willing to move down 8-10 spots. There are gonna be some big time talents that drop to us that won't drop 10 more spots and someone in that range will want to move up to get one of them.

Messier 03-12-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483653)
So he immediately felt that they're approach was flawed. Either that or they succumbed to short-term thinking.

But we're supposed to give them a couple of years to settle in.

They had a nice first year, no? I'm alright with seeing this year if they can build something sustainable.

beach tribe 03-12-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 10483664)
The situation has done a 180. Last year they were taking on the football equivalent of breathing life back into an aborted fetus. The approach reflects the situation.

4-12 off-season with NO QB.

10-6 QB position filled.

Yeah, that might cause a slight adjustment in approach.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10483685)
They had a nice first year, no? I'm alright with seeing this year if they can build something sustainable.

And when they don't?

htismaqe 03-12-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10483687)
4-12 off-season with NO QB.

10-6 QB position filled.

Yeah, that might cause a slight adjustment in approach.

Worked for Herm.


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