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Marcellus 08-13-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10815777)
Yep.

He will never be more than what he is: a QB who wins football games.

FYP

saphojunkie 08-13-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10815777)
Yep.

He will never be more than what he is: a disease that kills wide receivers.

That's ridiculous.

Hammock Parties 08-13-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10815789)
That's ridiculous.

I know. You'd think he could at least get the ball to Bowe like Cassel did.

saphojunkie 08-13-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10815794)
I know. You'd think he could at least get the ball to Bowe like Cassel did.

:LOL:

Oxford 08-13-2014 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10815681)
Neither Reid nor Alex Smith is the kind of coach/player that would not use whatever talent they had. Bowe didn't get separation with any consistency. He also didn't win the battle for the ball against the CBs. Bowe got open against the Colts and he got the ball. If Bowe gets open this year then he will get plenty of targets.

If you want to say that Bowe is a bad match for Reid/Smith then fine. But the rest is bullshit.

Bowe is the kind of receiver that plays when he wants to. Big contract = no motivation.

jd1020 08-13-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford (Post 10815797)
Bowe is the kind of receiver that plays when he wants to. Big contract = no motivation.

He points to his name!!!!!!!

Hammock Parties 08-13-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford (Post 10815797)
Bowe is the kind of receiver that plays when he wants to. Big contract = no motivation.

Bowe = worst draft pick ever

Rausch 08-13-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10815750)
the longest pass(in the air) to Bowe was like 12 yards, the big yards came after the catch

Reid had that talk with Alex in week 10 or 12. Not before the Colts playoff game.

He repeated it for the Colts playoff game...

Rausch 08-13-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford (Post 10815797)
Bowe is the kind of receiver that plays when he wants to. Big contract = no motivation.

Bowe is a WR like Anquan Boldin: he doesn't get a lot of separation, like, ever. He's physical, fights for the ball, gets YAC.

For Kap that's a great guy to have. Someone a young QB can throw it to even when he's not wide open and let the guy fight for the ball.

With Smith he'd be useless...

Kiimo 08-13-2014 03:13 PM

Um the jury is still out on both. Out on post-contract Bowe and out on Alex Smith.

jd1020 08-13-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10815815)
Um the jury is still out on both. Out on post-contract Bowe and out on Alex Smith.

Both have been in the league for a long time. The jury concluded long ago.

saphojunkie 08-13-2014 03:16 PM

But seriously, the two examples I think we're all going to point to are Bowe and Crabtree, right?

In 2012, when Kaepernick took over for Smith, the first game Crabtree had 26 yards receiving.

After that, his targets dramatically increased. You might say that's because Kaepernick was willing to throw more than Smith, right? But that would be ignoring that those targets - multiple games with double digit targets - were coming from somewhere.

That somewhere was from Vernon Davis and - SHOCKING - other wide receivers. Look at Kaepernick's signature game - week 15 in a win vs. New England.

Crabtree got seven receptions.
Randy Moss got two.

No other wide receiver caught a pass.

That tells me that Kaepernick's focus on Crabtree is far less because he's willing to throw it where Smith isn't and moreso because, like a lot of young QBs, he had one read and locked onto one target.

Avery's career production didn't dip with Alex Smith. In fact, it was right up there with his best years.

McCluster's receiving production didn't dip with Alex Smith. Again, right at the top.

The only WR who has had a noticeable downturn in production with Alex Smith is Bowe, and it was just one year. Granted, that shit is WAY MORE ****ING IMPORTANT than avery or mccluster****. But there simply isn't this overwhelming evidence that Smith takes good receivers and makes them bad. He spreads the ball around, he makes short to intermediate, high-percentage throws.

I don't think Bowe's contract was a mistake. I don't think Bowe has lost it. I don't think Bowe's done.

I think Bowe should have a very good year. He won't put up Megatron numbers, but I think he's going to be very productive this year. And idiots like Teicher look at stats and decide that's the entire measure of a player. Bowe has to be respected on the outside. He commands the top DB in coverage. He opens up the middle. He blocks for Jamaal like a son of a bitch. He's a good teammate, a willing leader.

I ****ing love Bowe. I am excited to see what happens this year with everyone being familiar with the offense and more comfortable with each other.

mikey23545 08-13-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10815717)
Bullshit. Did you see the playoff game? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

Did you know that Bowe had 521 yards his last eight games last season?

Gee, that had NOTHING to do with Bowe finding his nuts finally wrapping his incredible I.Q. around 10 or 20% of the playbook I bet.


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jd1020 08-13-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10815820)
Avery's career production didn't dip with Alex Smith. In fact, it was right up there with his best years.

Avery was 20 catches and nearly 200 yards short of his career best...

It's no coincidence that the outside WR's suffered through a year of Alex Smith. Even his biggest ball washers will tell you he doesn't like going outside.

Marcellus 08-13-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10815832)
Avery was 20 catches and nearly 200 yards short of his career best...

Jesus Christ that's like 12 yards a game!

He dropped more than 200 yards worth of passes.


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