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OldSchool 11-08-2014 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 11094093)
My opinion, yes he was. We went from a guard rated at about 60 to a guard rated around 63 in the league by PFF. My eyeball rating, we went from dog shit to dog shit. Dog shit is getting us by. In the end, both suck ****ing ass. Both suck so much ass that they both need to be replaced. I don't get the love affair for Jeff "Turnstile" Allen, he blows. Just because the guy taking his place now sucks even more, doesn't make Allen any good.
I actually hope they bring Allen back to compete at RT. He looked a lot better there than he did at LG.

O.city 11-08-2014 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 11094130)
I actually hope they bring Allen back to compete at RT. He looked a lot better there than he did at LG.
I was thinking that too.

Saccopoo 11-08-2014 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11094166)
I was thinking that too.
Allen should be a pretty decent zone RT.

That's not really what Reid runs, so he's a LG now.

He's put on some excess weight to play in the phone booth which has restricted his athleticism.

He should cut back down and be our first option at any of the four line positions other than center. Main guy backing up the entire line but C.

We really need a guy who can play the LG spot as a power guy.

RunKC 11-10-2014 06:02 PM
Updated.

Receiver, athletic TE, pass rusher and DB.

Sorter 11-10-2014 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11094695)
Allen should be a pretty decent zone RT.

That's not really what Reid runs, so he's a LG now.

He's put on some excess weight to play in the phone booth which has restricted his athleticism.

He should cut back down and be our first option at any of the four line positions other than center. Main guy backing up the entire line but C.

We really need a guy who can play the LG spot as a power guy.
Chiefs do ZB more than any other type of run scheme.

RunKC 11-11-2014 11:45 AM
Would also like us to get a dominant power player in the middle of our defense. Joe Mays is okay for now, but if you can get a safety that resembles a pollard or Kam chancellor, get him and watch this defense have success.
AJ Johnson from Tennessee looks like a guy who could be there in round 4.

RealSNR 11-11-2014 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11088444)
If the Chiefs go guard early, I will kill a hamster. Kccrow's hamster.

They can go tackle if they want, since they'll actually need one in 2016. But considering they have all sorts of options at guard, I will seriously kill kccrow's hamster.
If the Chiefs win the Super Bowl, I'm totally cool if they take a guard with their 1st round pick.

DaneMcCloud 11-11-2014 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 11094093)
My opinion, yes he was. We went from a guard rated at about 60 to a guard rated around 63 in the league by PFF. My eyeball rating, we went from dog shit to dog shit. Dog shit is getting us by. In the end, both suck ****ing ass. Both suck so much ass that they both need to be replaced. I don't get the love affair for Jeff "Turnstile" Allen, he blows. Just because the guy taking his place now sucks even more, doesn't make Allen any good.
I'm sorry, but I don't use PFF as my Bible.

Jeff Allen is an ascending player. He and Stephenson spent six weeks (and their own money) training in Arizona this offseason with former All Pro Le Charles Bentley (and it's not even a contract year). McGlynn is a 29 year old veteran with zero upside.

I don't "love" Allen but I don't believe that he's reached his ceiling.

DaneMcCloud 11-11-2014 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11094695)
Allen should be a pretty decent zone RT.

That's not really what Reid runs, so he's a LG now.
The Chiefs have been running the ZBS exclusively since after the Bye week in 2013.

RunKC 11-11-2014 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11103415)
I'm sorry, but I don't use PFF as my Bible.

Jeff Allen is an ascending player. He and Stephenson spent six weeks (and their own money) training in Arizona this offseason with former All Pro Le Charles Bentley (and it's not even a contract year). McGlynn is a 29 year old veteran with zero upside.

I don't "love" Allen but I don't believe that he's reached his ceiling.
I think Reid was expecting him to have hist best season this year. Glad we drafted LDT as insurance.

Should be a nice battle between those two next year at camp.

O.city 11-11-2014 01:30 PM
One thing Pioli was always doing that seemed counterintuitive was drafting tackles to play guard and vice versa etc.

Draft a guard l, put him at guard.

jonzie04 11-11-2014 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11103439)
One thing Pioli was always doing that seemed counterintuitive was drafting tackles to play guard and vice versa etc.

Draft a guard l, put him at guard.
A lot of college teams put their best lineman at lt even though their skillset translates better to the nfl as a guard.

RunKC 11-11-2014 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11103439)
One thing Pioli was always doing that seemed counterintuitive was drafting tackles to play guard and vice versa etc.

Draft a guard l, put him at guard.
Allen was projected as a better G than OT at the combine bc of his abilities. Same with Hudson being a better C than G.

kccrow 11-11-2014 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11103415)
I'm sorry, but I don't use PFF as my Bible.

Jeff Allen is an ascending player. He and Stephenson spent six weeks (and their own money) training in Arizona this offseason with former All Pro Le Charles Bentley (and it's not even a contract year). McGlynn is a 29 year old veteran with zero upside.

I don't "love" Allen but I don't believe that he's reached his ceiling.
I don't use PFF as my bible either, which is why I stated my eyeball test. Allen is shit, plain and simple shit. Never change my opinion on that. I don't expect to change yours either, just stating how I feel.

Dante84 11-12-2014 12:18 AM
Will we have the money to snag Randall Cobb in FA?

He would be the *perfect* addition to this offense.


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