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OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11159681)
The bidmg difference between our cap and devnvers is they have a shit ton of really good guys still on rookie contracts and we do not.
Which is an indictment on this front office and the one that proceeded it.

They've drafted better than we have, while picking at the bottom of the round and we've been picking in the Top 5-10.

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2014 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159984)
First, last night he had quite a few completions past 20 yards.

But, how many QB's could do anything last night? He was pressured immediately every play, and when he wasn't, he made plays.

When Bowe is your #1, you need A LOT of time to throw. Alex has 2-3 seconds.
Cassel, Quinn, Palko, Orton, Thigpen, Huard, and Croyle never had any problem throwing to Bowe. Why can't our franchise QB do the same?

Chiefnj2 12-01-2014 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159984)
First, last night he had quite a few completions past 20 yards.

But, how many QB's could do anything last night? He was pressured immediately every play, and when he wasn't, he made plays.

When Bowe is your #1, you need A LOT of time to throw. Alex has 2-3 seconds.
Why don't teams blitz QB's like Manning and Brady ? Because those guys can consistently find an open hot receiver and turn a short pass into a huge gain.

Now, I realize Smith isn't in the same class as those guys. But, to some on this board, he's in the next tier. With that in mind, how often does Smith hit a hot receiver on a blitz? Make a team pay for putting 8 or 9 in the box? Even a guy like Hoyer can do it once in a while. When does Smith make any defense respect the passing game?

WhawhaWhat 12-01-2014 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11159666)
IR - $43.5 million - St. Louis Rams

http://www.spotrac.com/premium/resea...-spending-485/
:eek:

O.city 12-01-2014 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11159996)
Why don't teams blitz QB's like Manning and Brady ? Because those guys can consistently find an open hot receiver and turn a short pass into a huge gain.

Now, I realize Smith isn't in the same class as those guys. But, to some on this board, he's in the next tier. With that in mind, how often does Smith hit a hot receiver on a blitz? Make a team pay for putting 8 or 9 in the box? Even a guy like Hoyer can do it once in a while. When does Smith make any defense respect the passing game?
Said wr has to know to run a "hot" route too.

The Franchise 12-01-2014 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11159984)
First, last night he had quite a few completions past 20 yards.

But, how many QB's could do anything last night? He was pressured immediately every play, and when he wasn't, he made plays.

When Bowe is your #1, you need A LOT of time to throw. Alex has 2-3 seconds.
Past 20 yards? He had zero. His only pass that WAS 20 yards was his TD to Fasano.

Plenty of QBs find open receivers when they're blitzed. Smith shits himself and gets sacked.

O.city 12-01-2014 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11159992)
Cassel, Quinn, Palko, Orton, Thigpen, Huard, and Croyle never had any problem throwing to Bowe. Why can't our franchise QB do the same?
Because Bowe is ****ing terrible now?

I've defended the guy as much as anyone, but he's just not very good anymore.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-01-2014 12:23 PM
Per PFF, Alex Smith has been pressured on 33% of dropbacks this year.

THIRTY-THREE. Aka 1 in every 3 plays.

The Franchise 12-01-2014 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11160006)
Because Bowe is ****ing terrible now?

I've defended the guy as much as anyone, but he's just not very good anymore.
So it's just a coincidence that when Smith becomes the QB of this team that Bowe is not very good anymore? Really?

O.city 12-01-2014 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160011)
So it's just a coincidence that when Smith becomes the QB of this team that Bowe is not very good anymore? Really?
No, it's a coincidence that he's just slow now. And he doesn't mentally get himself in the right spots very often.

Last night after the fumble from manning, the second play we run a bubble screen to DAT and bowe is running downfield to catch a pass, not even touching a player.

RunKC 12-01-2014 12:27 PM
Adding Bowe and Tamba to this would give us around $40 million.

Obviously we won't cut all these guys but there is no reason why we can't give Houston his contract and add 3 or 4 quality FA's.

Time to spend in FA. We're the 3rd youngest team in the league and it's showing. You have 11 draft picks this spring to build the team in case free agency fails.

No excuse.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-01-2014 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11160020)
Adding Bowe and Tamba to this would give us around $40 million.

Obviously we won't cut all these guys but there is no reason why we can't give Houston his contract and add 3 or 4 quality FA's.

Time to spend in FA. We're the 3rd youngest team in the league and it's showing. You have 11 draft picks this spring to build the team in case free agency fails.

No excuse.
This

Sorter 12-01-2014 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11160017)
No, it's a coincidence that he's just slow now. And he doesn't mentally get himself in the right spots very often.

Last night after the fumble from manning, the second play we run a bubble screen to DAT and bowe is running downfield to catch a pass, not even touching a player.
Packaged play.

ChiefsCountry 12-01-2014 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11159666)
IR - $43.5 million - St. Louis Rams
http://www.spotrac.com/premium/resea...-spending-485/
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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11160000)
:eek:
It changed this week since Chris Long came off but the Rams had Bradford, Jake Long and Chris Long all on IR. I'm sure those are 3 of the 4 top paid players on the Rams along with Robert Quinn.

jonzie04 12-01-2014 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11159987)
Which is an indictment on this front office and the one that proceeded it.

They've drafted better than we have, while picking at the bottom of the round and we've been picking in the Top 5-10.
very true :deevee: really sad looking at it.


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