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Hootie 01-03-2015 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11238896)
Dude, 95% of all people that tear their Achilles never return to normal. 36% never return to the NFL.

Suggs is a freak of nature, not the norm. Basing DJ's recovery on Suggs' is premature.

and 20 years ago an ACL spelled death to careers

things change

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2015 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11238898)
The one concerning trend for me is how we wrap these seasons up.

We ended 2013 2-6, and ended 2014 2-4.

I don't know what's causing that or how it can be remedied.

Firing Andy Reid is really the only way to know for sure.

Hootie 01-03-2015 02:01 AM

2013 was a bit fluky

clearly, we are never going to beat Peyton Manning (that was 0-2)

we lost 38-41 to San Diego when we had zero pass rush (Houston / Hali out) on a last second TD

we beat San Diego with all of our backups (doesn't count)

we got crushed @ home against Indy (turrible)

and then we all know what happened in the playoff game

Same thing with this year, really.

I'm not a blind homer.

I've noticed that Andy Reid pretty much always has his team ready to compete. There are some aberrations like Tennessee this year and Indy @ home in the regular season last year ...

but for the most part ... we always come out and we're always in a position to win in the 4th quarter.

That's a far cry from the Herm years and certainly the Haley/Crennel/Pioli years where it just became normal for us to lose by ****ing 30 every week

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2015 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11238899)
and 20 years ago an ACL spelled death to careers

things change

ACL repairs are far different than Achilles.

The main reason why ACL's ended careers was due to the invasive medical procedures. have you ever seen ACL scars from the 80's? Today's microscopic surgery negates such need.

Achilles repair in athletes is unsuccessful for the most part. A cadaver muscle is replaced and grafted, leaving the results uncertain.

Hootie 01-03-2015 02:05 AM

It's just funny to me, now ...

because this offseason is going to be terrible. It's going to be miserable to be a realistic Chiefs fan on this board.

And then, next year, when we are suddenly like 6-2 or 8-3 everyone will be right back on the "omg Alex isn't that bad! Reid/Dorsey are great!" bandwagon.

It's like clockwork.

This team has so many assets going forward. We have a TON of draft picks, Reid has a lot of credibility with players all over the NFL in terms of free agency, etc...

Everyone knows how amazing it would be to have Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Peyton Manning at QB.

We don't have that luxury.

It's a shame this board can't get the **** over it and look forward to seeing what happens with our surplus of ammunition this offseason.

Instead, we're going to gripe about Alex all offseason! YES! THREE YEARS IN A ROW!

But please, if you guys know how to trade for Aaron Rodgers, please, by all means, let me know.

Hootie 01-03-2015 02:07 AM

but blah blah blah

45 years

blah blah blah

22 years without a playoff win

Don't you think EVERYONE knows this? My God.

I'm all for finding an Aaron Rodgers Oak and taking an Aaron Rodgers from said Oak and calling it a day ...

but unfortunately, he's about a once a decade tree. If that. Fortunately, Reid/Dorsey were smart enough to stay away from the Geno Aids Fire Tree.

Hootie 01-03-2015 02:09 AM

and you're right Dane, I certainly don't understand the medical side of an achilles injury

I'm not even particularly optimistic or pessimistic. I know our defense was pretty good this year with a dumpster fire playing at DJ's position, so there's that

but the good thing is that, if Terrell Suggs can do it and return to about the same form, DJ could definitely do it as well

will he?

Guess we'll see.

jonzie04 01-03-2015 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11238902)
Firing Andy Reid is really the only way to know for sure.

I don't think thats a Reid problem. Going back and looking at the Eagles his teams have always finished strong.

2006 Finished 6-2 won last 5 games
2007 Finished 5-3 won last 3 games
2008 Finished 4-4 Went 3-1 last 4 games
2009 Finished 6-1
2010 Finished 6-3 3-2 last 5 games
2011 Finished 5-2 won last 4 games
2012 Complete Failue

2013-Our two best pass rushers got hurt, we started playing better QB's and our secondary got exposed. The offense and Reid actually did a much better job in the second half.

2014- Not really sure what happened, Reid could take part of the blame though.

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2015 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11238904)

but for the most part ... we always come out and we're always in a position to win in the 4th quarter.

Being in a "position to win" and actually winning are two different things entirely.

Tennesee, San Francisco and even Denver were winnable games in September. The Raiders and Cardinals games were winnable in November. The Steelers game was actually winnable in December.

In each instance, Andy Reid coached like an amateur n00b, yet he's coached more than 270 NFL games.

He is what he is.

Hootie 01-03-2015 02:12 AM

if Reid deserves to be fired after 11-5 and 9-7

if people really think that on this board

they should just go find something else to do on Sundays

how insanely ridiculous

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2015 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11238913)
I don't think thats a Reid problem. Going back and looking at the Eagles his teams have always finished strong.

2006 Finished 6-2 won last 5 games
2007 Finished 5-3 won last 3 games
2008 Finished 4-4 Went 3-1 last 4 games
2009 Finished 6-1
2010 Finished 6-3 3-2 last 5 games
2011 Finished 5-2 won last 4 games
2012 Complete Failue

2013-Our two best pass rushers got hurt, we started playing better QB's and our secondary got exposed. The offense and Reid actually did a much better job in the second half.

2014- Not really sure what happened, Reid could take part of the blame though.

Without looking at his record, much of that could be attributes to the weakness of the NFC East.

Hootie 01-03-2015 02:13 AM

Dane I'll bet anything in this world you'll be right back on the Reid/Chiefs bandwagon no later than week 10 next year

anything

and I'll make sure to bookmark this very post

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2015 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11238915)
if Reid deserves to be fired after 11-5 and 9-7

if people really think that on this board

they should just go find something else to do on Sundays

how insanely ridiculous

It was a joke, like "nuke it from orbit".

DaneMcCloud 01-03-2015 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11238917)
Dane I'll bet anything in this world you'll be right back on the Reid/Chiefs bandwagon no later than week 10 next year

anything

and I'll make sure to bookmark this very post

I refuse to renew Sunday Ticket this year

jonzie04 01-03-2015 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11238916)
Without looking at his record, much of that could be attributes to the weakness of the NFC East.

Thats a pretty hefty stretch of games there. finishing out the second half of each season at > .500 5 years in a row? It should be pretty obvious that complete failures at the end of the season aren't an issue Reid has had.


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