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Saccopoo 02-06-2015 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11314589)
I get the value of talented linemen, I do. One has to look no further than Vermeil's teams to understand what a talented offensive line can do for a team overall. But I don't think Hudson brings to the offense half of what Houston brings to the defense. Hudson is a solid, solid guy that I like, but Houston is a once a decade talent we absolutely stole in the draft.

Letting a Justin Houston walk or be traded to keep a Rodney Hudson should get Dorsey fired if he were to do it, and I really want us to keep Hudson.

The problem I have with Houston, or at least the perception of Houston, is that he's worth any price to keep, and I don't agree with that.

Yes, he's the best 34 OLB in the league IMO coming off his best season as a pro and is now in the situation to basically let the other 31 teams in the league set his price. It's going to be expensive and I don't think that you bankrupt a team for one guy. Seattle is a prime example of how you can build the best defense in the league with solid players across the board versus, say, the Texans, who are basically tied to one magnificent player and the rest of the defense comprised of guys who you have to fit around that one monstrous salary of the stud.

If Houston was to take a deal similar to what Smith did on the offensive side of the ball, then sure, you sign him. But you don't get into a bidding war with the lunatic front offices in the league just to keep him on your team. It's why we have Dee Ford on our team now IMO. He was the insurance against an insanity level contract negotiation by Houston more than a replacement of Hali.

And you most definitely do not let guys like Hudson walk just so you have money to spend for Houston. 53 guys make a team.

If you thought that the offensive line was bad last year, imagine what that is going to look like with a brand new center in 2015. There aren't enough Justin Houston's to cover up that level of stink and you basically end up with the Shottenheimer era Chiefs.

There has to be balance on the team, on both sides of the ball.

O.city 02-06-2015 10:42 PM

Seattle built that defense thru the draft and by good FA signings for cheap. Now, the bill is coming due and they probably can't pay everyone.

In the end though, you can't let a player of Houston caliber walk for nothing or at all.

Signing Houston is gonna take alot of money, but they guy has shown he can perform at not only the level 9f the money he will make, but can highly impact the other players around them making them better by him just doing his thing.

The Texans being what they are, isn't because of watt. It's because they haven't drafted or signed players worth a shit on defense.

If the chiefs sign houston or don't sign him, the end doesn't matter if the don't start or keep drafting young cheap talent.

O.city 02-06-2015 10:45 PM

also, you know what you can get from houston.

Like watt, he's a potential 20 sack per year player, who's not in his age prime yet.

So you can pay Houston and get potentially 20 sacks from h8m, or pay 3 guys what you'd eventually pay for Houston and hope to accumulate 20 sacks From the 3.

Saccopoo 02-06-2015 11:51 PM

One guy you can defense. See Jared Allen for his entire career. Derrick Thomas. Two of the very best sack masters in the history of the NFL. Didn't win shit in the post season.

Seattle's best this year? Michael Bennett with 7.

New Englands sack leader in 2014? Rob Ninkovich with 8.

A great defense doesn't need sacks to be great.

Bewbies 02-07-2015 01:25 AM

So you don't pay the NFL sack leader so you can resign a center? LMAO

Saccopoo 02-08-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 11314808)
So you don't pay the NFL sack leader so you can resign a center? LMAO

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O.city 02-10-2015 09:43 PM

So Devin Funchess is intriguing

Discuss Thrower 02-10-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11321454)
So Devin Funchess is intriguing

Do not want.

O.city 02-10-2015 11:06 PM

Why?

Urc Burry 02-10-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11321558)
Why?

I watch him and can't help but think of Jon Baldwin. Big, slow, tweener who doesn't get great seperation. For being such a big target and in his year at wr he only had 4 touchdowns, and 3 of them were against App State. I wouldn't touch him in the first, especially with Alex at QB


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