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Miles 02-07-2015 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11316157)
I love the bright red on the retro muscle cars but black looks the best, to me anyway, on the Mercedes, Audi, BWM kind of cars.

Black looks the best to me too. Have one and ****ing hate how every imperfection shows. Seriously every micro scratch from even the best towels is there but still love the color.

Simply Red 02-07-2015 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 11316156)
For some reason I'd prefer stock and don't like mods at all.

Suspect the reason you may not love the M5 as much as your former 335 is its a heavy full sized car. Engine is a total masterpiece but still a full sized car.

I got the one that's actually in the ECU - non piggyback (jb4) - it felt stock - the torque was 418 - that's why it felt so fast - But I did whip a stock S4 (assuming) in it - and fairly bad too.

Simply Red 02-07-2015 11:52 PM

http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...results%20page

lewdog 02-07-2015 11:52 PM

A neighbor on my street has two nice ass BMWs that he and his wife drive. He washes and cleans them by hand EVERY weekend. I haven't slowed down enough to inspect what they are but one is that awesome pearly blue color and the other is white. They are the finest looking cars I've seen.

Simply Red 02-07-2015 11:53 PM

just as an example - that one is 329 HP - 332 Torque -- not bad for stock.

Simply Red 02-07-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 11316156)
For some reason I'd prefer stock and don't like mods at all.

Suspect the reason you may not love the M5 as much as your former 335 is its a heavy full sized car. Engine is a total masterpiece but still a full sized car.


But yes - I hate how big the m5 is. I'll never own another this big.

Simply Red 02-07-2015 11:57 PM

got your message BRC - I was just checking Carmax near you - nothing too tempting - but I only researched the 335, BTW - to touch on Miles' pt. The 335 'stock' is still PLENTY fast.

BigRedChief 02-08-2015 12:43 AM

I can get the 428i for better prices than the 335 around here.

Simply Red 02-08-2015 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11316264)
I can get the 428i for better prices than the 335 around here.

You won't have the twin turbo though - twin turbos are so sweet IMO.

Simply Red 02-08-2015 12:47 AM

the 428 is a handsome car though - perhaps it has enough get up for you - Wonder if Miles knows it's HP? I'm too tired to look now - I'll catch you all in the A.M. at some point - it may be the afternoon(ish)

Later -

Miles 02-08-2015 01:06 AM

428 has 240 hp but with the 8 speed auto its pretty quick. 0-60 is 5.3ish.

Simply Red 02-08-2015 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 11316285)
428 has 240 hp but with the 8 speed auto its pretty quick. 0-60 is 5.3ish.

See that's probably just fine. GREAT looking car too. I'd explore that one as well. That may be the ticket. See? much faster than a 2.0t with a more handsome overall body, IMO. Lower and slightly wider frame. Thanks Miles.

Bearcat 02-08-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11316144)
They had no coupe's in stock. Two weeks maybe. They say they sell as soon as they get in. They keep the stock down to keep the price up. Don't know if thats true or not.

They had 4 doors but I just don't like the fit as well as the coupes.

The 2s are hard to find, and I've read in a few places that the 235 counts against a dealer's M allotment... and it's a smart move to keep inventory low, since there's less money to be made and it's kind of a niche product.

Autotrader shows 70 235 AWD and another 100 RWD in the entire country, compared to over 2100 4 series coupes.

BigRedChief 02-08-2015 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11316462)
The 2s are hard to find, and I've read in a few places that the 235 counts against a dealer's M allotment... and it's a smart move to keep inventory low, since there's less money to be made and it's kind of a niche product.

Autotrader shows 70 235 AWD and another 100 RWD in the entire country, compared to over 2100 4 series coupes.

So the salesman wasn't giving me a load of BS, the 2's are low production then. Maybe I should get that model because of resale value if I decide in a couple of years that the retro muscle cars are really more my speed? Or do all the cars mentioned here hold a good resale value?

Bearcat 02-08-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11316529)
So the salesman wasn't giving me a load of BS, the 2's are low production then. Maybe I should get that model because of resale value if I decide in a couple of years that the retro muscle cars are really more my speed? Or do all the cars mentioned here hold a good resale value?

I think BMWs in general have pretty solid resale value, based on some research (haven't ever tried selling a used BMW, myself). The 2s aren't even a year old (I think they started production last April on the 2014 models).... I don't know how many people will be looking for used 2s in 2-4 years, but I'm thinking there won't be a ton to choose from, as opposed to the 4s.


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