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DaneMcCloud 03-26-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11404554)
Then consider it a $5mill PR move and act of good faith.

It's ok to sometimes not treat people like a piece of property.

I understand that it's a business. But if a business wants to be charitable, then im fine with that too.

IMO, it would be dumb for the Chiefs to eat $5 million in valuable cap space as a PR move because it weakens the team. $5 million nearly covers the rookie draft pool and would definitely account for a starter.

There are other ways that the Clarks can take care of Berry without sacrificing cap room.

DaneMcCloud 03-26-2015 11:17 AM

And furthermore, I just have to say, why do you people even care? The man has health insurance and most likely has disability insurance, plus, he's earned more than $50 million dollars in his career. He's a charity case?

I'd like for one person to name why the Chiefs should sacrifice $5 million+ in cap space, other than "It's the right thing to do", which it really isn't.

Discuss Thrower 03-26-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11404561)
And furthermore, I just have to say, why do you people even care? The man has health insurance and most likely has disability insurance, plus, he's earned more than $50 million dollars in his career. He's a charity case?

I'd like for one person to name why the Chiefs should sacrifice $5 million+ in cap space, other than "It's the right thing to do", which it really isn't.

This.

loochy 03-26-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11404561)
And furthermore, I just have to say, why do you people even care? The man has health insurance and most likely has disability insurance, plus, he's earned more than $50 million dollars in his career. He's a charity case?

I'd like for one person to name why the Chiefs should sacrifice $5 million+ in cap space, other than "It's the right thing to do", which it really isn't.

as I mentioned earlier....
...because cancer

cancer strikes a special place in peoples' hearts that other diseases dont

ToxSocks 03-26-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11404557)
IMO, it would be dumb for the Chiefs to eat $5 million in valuable cap space as a PR move because it weakens the team. $5 million nearly covers the rookie draft pool and would definitely account for a starter.

There are other ways that the Clarks can take care of Berry without sacrificing cap room.

i'll simply never have an issue with a billion dollar business taking care of someone, rather than treating them like a disposable piece of property, no matter how they want to do it.

To me, it's a non issue. Im not going to ridicule a front office for putting people before business once every blue moon.

ToxSocks 03-26-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11404561)

I'd like for one person to name why the Chiefs should sacrifice $5 million+ in cap space, other than "It's the right thing to do", which it really isn't.

Because they want to? Not everything has to be about business and football. These are humans with human relationships and human emotions.

Its ok for a team to, once every 50 years or so, put a player before business.

Iconic 03-26-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11404561)
he's earned more than $50 million dollars in his career.

I think it's actually 40M, at least that's what I'm seeing on overthecap, but I agree with your point.

DJ's left nut 03-26-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11404561)
And furthermore, I just have to say, why do you people even care? The man has health insurance and most likely has disability insurance, plus, he's earned more than $50 million dollars in his career. He's a charity case?

I'd like for one person to name why the Chiefs should sacrifice $5 million+ in cap space, other than "It's the right thing to do", which it really isn't.

SOCIOPATH!

You're walking covered ground here. Some people would prefer pat themselves on the back and claim moral superiority over simply looking at this logically.

Baby Lee 03-26-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11404552)
Not that it would happen, but the FO can claim the NFL is being hypocritical in doing the annual Pink fest for cancer but won't actually do anything for a player with cancer...

De'Angelo Williams says hi.

DaneMcCloud 03-26-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 11404569)
as I mentioned earlier....
...because cancer

cancer strikes a special place in peoples' hearts that other diseases dont

Trust me, I get it. But Eric Berry is insured and is a wealthy man. He's not someone that's going to lose his home or be in the poor house.

ToxSocks 03-26-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11404593)
SOCIOPATH!

You're walking covered ground here. Some people would prefer pat themselves on the back and claim moral superiority over simply looking at this logically.

Nothing to do with that.

It's not my money, i'm not going to condemn a business for an act of good faith, and i don't think the extra cap space would amount to shit anyway.

I simply don't have a problem with it.

BossChief 03-26-2015 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11404557)
IMO, it would be dumb for the Chiefs to eat $5 million in valuable cap space as a PR move because it weakens the team. $5 million nearly covers the rookie draft pool and would definitely account for a starter.

There are other ways that the Clarks can take care of Berry without sacrificing cap room.

I said this earlier and got blasted for it.

Eric has made more than ANY SAFETY IN NFL HISTORY, is covered by insurance and is exactly the reason things like the NFI list is there for.

IMO the Chiefs have 2 legitimate options here:

1) extend his contract with a nice roster bonus in 2016 and a SB of the 5.5m he would earn this year. That's the legit PR bonanza move I prefer them to do.

2) place him on the NFI and pay him part of his salary.

...

Cutting him would send a bad message, but keeping his 5.5m base (after everything) would not only be irresponsible, it would HURT THE TEAMS CHANCES AT WINNING BIG GAMES IN 2015...as has been mentioned, 5.5m is a high quality starter that we would be going without because ...why, again?

DaneMcCloud 03-26-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11404571)
i'll simply never have an issue with a billion dollar business taking care of someone, rather than treating them like a disposable piece of property, no matter how they want to do it.

To me, it's a non issue. Im not going to ridicule a front office for putting people before business once every blue moon.

But this doesn't even make any sense. By putting him on the NFI list, how are the Chiefs not "taking care of him"?

My wife's company billed over $12 billion in 2012. They didn't pay her salary when she was diagnosed with cancer.

DaneMcCloud 03-26-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11404577)
Because they want to? Not everything has to be about business and football. These are humans with human relationships and human emotions.

Its ok for a team to, once every 50 years or so, put a player before business.

But again, this makes no sense to make the team LESS COMPETITIVE because Eric Berry has cancer.

Seriously Dude, this is some Johnny Cochran shit you're spewing.

BossChief 03-26-2015 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11404571)
i'll simply never have an issue with a billion dollar business taking care of someone, rather than treating them like a disposable piece of property, no matter how they want to do it.

To me, it's a non issue. Im not going to ridicule a front office for putting people before business once every blue moon.

Would you be saying the same thing if this was about Alex Smith? Or is this mostly because of the emotional investment in this specific player?

I love Eric Berry as much as anyone, but this is a business and I'm sure Eric of all people understands that.

After all, he has made as much as he has at his age because ITS A BUSINESS.


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