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staylor26 07-17-2015 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11603865)
Even still, how can you call him good at something he's never even done?
JFC I never said that he was I just said that he could/should be based on his upside as a prospect. Time will tell if I'm right, but I'm not saying it is a certainty. I'm not Seeing Red saying he's going to get 10 sacks or Mike DeVito calling him Pro Bowl caliber.

TimBone 07-17-2015 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11603832)
Holy shit. Since when did saying good situational pass rusher = All-pro?

I guess Jimmy Wilkerson was an All-Pro then. Can't believe we let him get away :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11603892)
JFC I never said that he was I just said that he could/should be based on his upside as a prospect. Time will tell if I'm right, but I'm not saying it is a certainty. I'm not Seeing Red saying he's going to get 10 sacks or Mike DeVito calling him Pro Bowl caliber.
The problem is that any time there is talk about how stout this defense is going to be, there's always one or two dick wads that jump in and say something along the lines of, "Oh yeah, plus we've got Big Cat! That dudes a ****ing beast! Probably the best pass rushing linemen we've got." The dude is the latest in a long line of overhyped Chiefs that have done exactly jack and shit to warrant the hype. Not to mention, he's coming of a year long mysterious rancid ebola infestation. Let's let the guy prove that he can still play before crowning him the best evah.

RealSNR 07-17-2015 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11603921)
The problem is that any time there is talk about how stout this defense is going to be, there's always one or two dick wads that jump in and say something along the lines of, "Oh yeah, plus we've got Big Cat! That dudes a ****ing beast! Probably the best pass rushing linemen we've got." The dude is the latest in a long line of overhyped Chiefs that have done exactly jack and shit to warrant the hype. Not to mention, he's coming of a year long mysterious rancid ebola infestation. Let's let the guy prove that he can still play before crowning him the best evah.
AIDS. He had AIDS

Of the labia.

Sorter 07-17-2015 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11603812)
Can you provide evidence that Houston is actually asked to do more than drop a few yards and stand? Looking at his coverage stats, the passes he is defending are all very close to the LOS. For instance, in the Buffalo game he gave up 34 yards on passes, and 39 yards were after the catch. That means the average pass he was defending was caught behind the line of scrimmage. I'm not sure I've ever seen an LB go cover someone one-on-one in the backfield.
Yes.

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Sorter 07-17-2015 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11603864)
These are the catches he gave up over the season:

Frank Gore; 1 yard; 8 YAC; caught 7 yards behind LOS
Fred Jackson; 6 yards, 7 YAC; caught 1 yard behind LOS
Chris Hogan; 4 yards; 3 YAC; caught 1 yard past the LOS
2 catches to Bryce Brown; 24 yards; 29 YAC; caught an average of 2.5 yards behind the LOS
Emmanuel Sanders; -5 yards; 0 YAC; caught 5 yards behind the LOS
CJ Anderson; 15 yards; 13 YAC; caught 2 yards past the LOS

Not a single pass more than 2 yards past the LOS.
These statistics don't account for passing plays in which Houston was in coverage and his receiver wasn't targeted. Doesn't seem like an accurate way to determine how a player performed in coverage.

Generally speaking in regards to 3-4 OLBs, the majority of their drops are going to be to the flat. There are some variations (e.g. man calls, pattern-match checks, fire zones that result in the DE in subs or OLB in base being the hook or rat player, etc.)

mdchiefsfan 07-17-2015 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 11603382)
If your peers that are actually there to see what's going on think you have Pro Bowl potential.... they might be right. I mean they are there. Also watch Week 17 tape vs. SD. Most disruptive guy on our line that day.
This term always cracks me up. Like someone is trying to be official. Where do I acquire this tape, coach? Just say game; it makes you appear to not be trying so hard to convince someone. :thumb:

Watched a game, reviewed some tape. It's officially official once the review comes into play!

TimBone 07-17-2015 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11603933)
AIDS. He had AIDS

Of the labia.
Labia Aids? I believe my brother had that once. It turned him into a hell of a pass rusher, though.

TimBone 07-17-2015 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11604277)
This term always cracks me up. Like someone is trying to be official. Where do I acquire this tape, coach? Just say game; it makes you appear to not be trying so hard to convince someone. :thumb:

Watched a game, reviewed some tape. It's officially official once the review comes into play!
Maybe he's posting from Andy Reid's film room, brah.

mdchiefsfan 07-17-2015 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 11604063)
I'd say that proved it. Not only does he extend, but switches his coverage to his responsibility on the field without missing a beat.

mdchiefsfan 07-17-2015 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11604289)
Maybe he's posting from Andy Reid's film room, brah.
Tape don't lie, dude!

Red Dawg 07-17-2015 08:38 PM
Houston is a total package player. He is really good at all his responsibilities. If you think he isn't a bad ass then you are stupid.

mdchiefsfan 07-17-2015 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11604304)
Houston a total package player. He is really good at all his responsibilities. If hi think he isn't a bad ass then you are stuid.
Have another one; I know I am :toast:

mdchiefsfan 07-17-2015 08:41 PM
:D

notorious 07-17-2015 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 11603829)
I actually don't think I've said a single thing about Houston's contract.
In that case you don't have a leg to stand on.

Miller was the 2nd pick, Houston was a 3rd rounder.


Houston plays on a team that is constantly fighting to stay in games, Miller plays on a team in which the opposition has to pass constantly to keep up with Peyton's offense.


Go **** an AIDS cactus.

mdchiefsfan 07-17-2015 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11604469)
In that case you don't have a leg to stand on.

Miller was the 2nd pick, Houston was a 3rd rounder.


Houston plays on a team that is constantly fighting to stay in games, Miller plays on a team in which the opposition has to pass constantly to keep up with Peyton's offense.


Go **** an AIDS cactus.
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