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duncan_idaho 11-09-2015 11:52 AM

Watched the entire game on Saturday, first time this season I've watched all of a TCU game. Still don't see pro-style concepts or route trees in that offense. Typical - well-designed - spread.

I could count on both hands the number of actual NFL-style throws that were made by Boykin, and maybe even on one hand. Most passes were short/easy/scheme throws to Alex Smith-open players. (the ones that weren't picked off, anyway).

He's a great college spread QB. Could be a great NFL WR.

KC native 11-09-2015 04:15 PM

LMAO @ idiots who want to judge one game while ignoring shitty games for whatever prospect they like and ignoring the other real opponents that he has beaten.

This was one of the worst games that TCU has played in a long time. Okie lite completely outcoached our coaches and knew our tendencies and go-to plays. Combine that with the god-awful pacing and you get a terrible game from Boykin.

KC native 11-09-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11872016)
Watched the entire game on Saturday, first time this season I've watched all of a TCU game. Still don't see pro-style concepts or route trees in that offense. Typical - well-designed - spread.

I could count on both hands the number of actual NFL-style throws that were made by Boykin, and maybe even on one hand. Most passes were short/easy/scheme throws to Alex Smith-open players. (the ones that weren't picked off, anyway).

He's a great college spread QB. Could be a great NFL WR.

The play calling was ****ing awful. We haven't run that many bubble screens all year (and even last year). Eventhough we had Listenbee back (who is one of the fastest WR in the Big 12), we didn't test down the field until the 2nd half when we were way down.

Also, quite with the route tree bullshit. A post route is a post route. A slant is a slant.

Saul Good 11-09-2015 04:56 PM

Boykin is a special college player and should be on a very short Heisman list. He's simply not an NFL QB, though.

SAUTO 11-09-2015 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11872759)
Boykin is a special college player and should be on a very short Heisman list. He's simply not an NFL QB, though.

Agreed

LoneWolf 11-10-2015 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11872645)
LMAO @ idiots who want to judge one game while ignoring shitty games for whatever prospect they like and ignoring the other real opponents that he has beaten.

This was one of the worst games that TCU has played in a long time. Okie lite completely outcoached our coaches and knew our tendencies and go-to plays. Combine that with the god-awful pacing and you get a terrible game from Boykin.

So you still think Boykin is going to be a successful NFL QB?

duncan_idaho 11-10-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11872661)
The play calling was ****ing awful. We haven't run that many bubble screens all year (and even last year). Eventhough we had Listenbee back (who is one of the fastest WR in the Big 12), we didn't test down the field until the 2nd half when we were way down.

Also, quite with the route tree bullshit. A post route is a post route. A slant is a slant.

I'm not going to quit with it. You clearly don't understand how a route tree is different in a pro-style offense vs. a spread, but that doesn't make it not true.

Yeah, a 7-yard slant route is a 7-yard slant route. But the design of the offense that leads to a receiver running that route is much different in a pro-style offense.

There's a reason every draft season, scouts raise questions about a WR's ability to adapt to NFL route trees after running "simple" routes in a spread offense, or questions about a QB's ability to make NFL progressions after playing in a spread offense with different route options, combinations, and reads.

KC native 11-10-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 11873583)
So you still think Boykin is going to be a successful NFL QB?

yes

KC native 11-10-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11873787)
I'm not going to quit with it. You clearly don't understand how a route tree is different in a pro-style offense vs. a spread, but that doesn't make it not true.

Yeah, a 7-yard slant route is a 7-yard slant route. But the design of the offense that leads to a receiver running that route is much different in a pro-style offense.

There's a reason every draft season, scouts raise questions about a WR's ability to adapt to NFL route trees after running "simple" routes in a spread offense, or questions about a QB's ability to make NFL progressions after playing in a spread offense with different route options, combinations, and reads.

That's a whole lot of words to say a slant route is a slant route.

O.city 11-10-2015 12:17 PM

Theres already talk that he's switching to WR after the season to prep for the combine. So, it's basically an exercise in futility to continue this argument.

Bowser 11-10-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11874093)
Theres already talk that he's switching to WR after the season to prep for the combine. So, it's basically an exercise in futility to continue this argument.

He should study Hines Ward and Antwaan Randle-El. If he could become half of either of those guys in the NFL, he will have a hell of a pro career.

TLO 12-31-2015 09:54 AM

HOO BOY

Prison Bitch 12-31-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11872645)
LMAO @ idiots who want to judge one game while ignoring shitty games for whatever prospect they like and ignoring the other real opponents that he has beaten. .

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SAUTO 12-31-2015 05:05 PM

To be fair he did beat that cop

Mr_Tomahawk 12-31-2015 10:08 PM

Lol....what a ****ing dumbass.

Enjoy going undrafted loser.


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